Posts by UnshackleTheChains

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Who Is An Apostate?

by NeonMadman in

maybe you've heard the story of a brother in the watchtower's writing department who was very smart, hard working and a good writer.

we'll call him charley.

charley was so good, in fact, that he advanced through the ranks and became a co-editor of the watchtower magazine.

UnshackleTheChains

The GB are never ever considered apostate regardless of whether they change long held teachings.

11

1975 EX JW Critical Thinkers video.

by WHATSGOINGON in

hi everyone.

jt and lady cee have posted an awesome video about 1975, its very interesting.. check it out, i just watched it and its great.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6nocaq0x-8 .

cheers wgo..

UnshackleTheChains

Their videos are incredibly good. Can't wait to watch this one.

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Looking for experiences from those who are married with kids and have dissacociated

by UnshackleTheChains in

this is a question for those who officially left the organisation and are married; and your spouse and kids are still in.'.

i just wanted to find out what your experience has been when you dissacociated.the following questions go through my mind all the time.

it always comes back to the what if's!.

UnshackleTheChains

Im all for disempowering their stupid rules.

Thanks Jambon. I very much agree with you. Playing by their rules only feeds their power. I think it really depends on circumstances. If I had no relatives involved, I would have simply dissacociated along time ago.

I disassociated but was disfellowshipped anyway afterwards. Yes, i know it doesn't make sense, they wanted to "chat" to me about my decision and during that chat disfellowshipped me.

Hi pale emporer

I am sure I saw your video fairly recently if my memory serves me correctly. There are no lengths these people will go to. These guys couldn't simply accept your decision to dissacociate and leave it at that. Its despicable what they did especially when they know the consequences you would face. Downright cruel.Thankyou for sharing your experience. Your answers have given me all the answers I need. In your case, you are happy with your decision and am glad you have found closure. This cult screws up people's lives. They break up families. It is so sad. I wish you and your daughter all the best for the future.

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FFA - 4H - Conscious matter or not allowed?

by Jennifer Lehrer in

i was baptized 4 years ago, i have 2 little girls who love their bunnies, so this year we reached out to 4h and started our own 4h group - this was after asking the elders for counsel.

none provided.

now after doing this for 3 months i am being brought before a judicial committee for neutrality.

UnshackleTheChains

Ask them if the individual who hung the national flag of Chile on this kingdom hall faced a JC!

https://youtu.be/n840aBCKhh8

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Favorite/least favorite CO's and DO's

by HereIgo in

i posted this thread sometime last year but thought i would revive it due to the new ones on the board, and to change things up a bit.

my favorite?

bro murikami, from hawaii, very humble, kind bro.

UnshackleTheChains

Charles the hit man Glendening

Lol. He sounds quite the chap 😂😂😂

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Looking for experiences from those who are married with kids and have dissacociated

by UnshackleTheChains in

this is a question for those who officially left the organisation and are married; and your spouse and kids are still in.'.

i just wanted to find out what your experience has been when you dissacociated.the following questions go through my mind all the time.

it always comes back to the what if's!.

UnshackleTheChains

Hi all,

This is a question for those who officially left the organisation and are married; and your spouse and kids are still in.'. I just wanted to find out what your experience has been when you dissacociated.The following questions go through my mind all the time. It always comes back to the what if's!

My questions are specifically:

Do some witnesses still come to your house for association with your still in spouse? Or do all of them avoid your home like the plague?

Do some of the more down to earth...keeping it real ones still talk to you as normal when they come to visit your spouse etc?

Do they allow their kids over for sleep overs and association and carry on as normal?

Did you write to relatives who are JW's and respectfully say they need not worry; that they could still come over, but that you would respectfully refrain from discussing anything spiritual out of respect for their beliefs?

Do any or even all of your JW relatives avoid visiting your home despite the fact your spouse and children are still attending?

Did your dissacociation cause a lot of stress between you and your spouse and children?

Did your experience affect your mental health?

And finally

Was it worth it? Or do you wish you had simply faded?

I would be really grateful if you could share some of your experiences.

Thanks

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(Not so) Subliminal Shave Your Beard Message

by Funchback in

i'm in the middle of dissecting the june 2017 jw broadcasting video.. in the first minute, they summarize a story about a guy who apparently was a one-time bad ass (showed a picture of him with a beard while posing on a chopper).

then, they show him shaving at the exact same moment the narrator is saying how he regained "a clean conscience".. this no-beard obsession by the jws is beyond nuts.. .

UnshackleTheChains

I don't know why the brothers don't simply end this ridiculous rule by growing their beards en masse. That would end this man made rule very quickly.

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(Not so) Subliminal Shave Your Beard Message

by Funchback in

i'm in the middle of dissecting the june 2017 jw broadcasting video.. in the first minute, they summarize a story about a guy who apparently was a one-time bad ass (showed a picture of him with a beard while posing on a chopper).

then, they show him shaving at the exact same moment the narrator is saying how he regained "a clean conscience".. this no-beard obsession by the jws is beyond nuts.. .

UnshackleTheChains

Saw it last night. The guy was genuine in wanting to change his bad ass ways. Fair plays to him. The shaving the beard thing just had to be put in subtly didn't it. Oh well, Rutherford still lives!!

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Has anyone on here referred to themselves as an apostate to fellow witnesses

by Chook in

i have it bodes well for a snap photo..

UnshackleTheChains

No, but my mother told me recently that I sounded like one 🙄

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Deborah Layton - Jonestown Survivor

by Tallon in

saw this on the exjw reddit forum - very thought provoking.. "when your own thoughts are forbidden, when your questions are not allowed and our doubts are punished, when contacts with friendships outside of the organisation are censored, we are being abused, for the ends never justify the means.. when our heart aches knowing we have made friendships and secret attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave, we are in danger.. when we consider staying in a group because we cannot bear the loss, disappointment and sorrow our leaving will cause for ourselves and those we have come to love, we are in a cult .... when family and friends are used as a weapon in order to force us to stay in an organisation, something has gone terribly wrong".. deborah layton.

seductive poison: a jonestown survivor's story of life and death in the people's temple.. .

UnshackleTheChains

Thanks for sharing that quote Tallon.

That just about sums it all up for anyone who has become a member of the Watchtower Bible and tract Society and then wakes up.