Posts by UnshackleTheChains

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Yup !

by berrygerry in

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UnshackleTheChains

Forget the 75 thing

Let David explain where we're at 🤔

https://youtu.be/ejO0Z8m2n-k

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Are You Raising An Introvert?

by darth frosty in

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its not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.

it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.

this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .

The beard issue

by Ray Frankz in

this is my second topic here.

sorry for this biiig post.

i would like to tell you guys about one of the things that bothered me most, despite of being something quite simple, but since it affected me directly, so.... well, being a ministerial servant, i knew the bad view the jw in general have towards beards.

UnshackleTheChains

Poppycock...I say!

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My Reverse-Shunning Letter To My Mother

by pale.emperor in

i mailed the below letter to my mother a few weeks ago.

i did share it on the ex-jw facebook group but thought i'd post it here.. basically, she's shunned me since day 1, has little or nothing to do with my 3yo daughter and told my sister "i hope <my daughter> becomes a jw when she's older so i can welcome her into the family".

well, that was the last straw for me..

UnshackleTheChains

Hi pale emporer

Your letter comes from the heart. It is really sad to think your own mother/family have nothing to do with you simply because you don't wish to be a JW. The unchristian shunning policy and other practices of the WTB&T£ is the very reason why so many are put off religion.

I would probably feel the exact same if I had been brought up and brainwashed by the society. I was practically atheist in my ways having been brought up Catholic and had all but given up on religion. The JWs helped me renew my faith in God (so I thought). That was short lived once I had woken up. Took me about 10 years and a bad experience of depression (due to this high control religion).

It was interesting you mentioned the support group you attend. How did you find such a support group? I tried to find one in my own city, but couldn't find one. It would be great to find a group to share experiences. This forum and a friend (fader) are the only places I can share my views/experiences at the moment.

All the best

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A judge in Mexico authorizes blood transfusion to a JW raramuri girl...

by ironsnake656 in

i everyone, this is my new and first post.

i have like 4 years reading all the stuff in this forum and i like it!!!!

thank you for all your information that helped me to get out from the jwland.

UnshackleTheChains

Welcome to the forum ironsnake656 and thanks for sharing.

Having been through an experience with the blood issue myself on 2 occasions, one of which involved my own child, I am so glad that common sense prevailed in this little girls case.

Many many lives have been unnesessarily lost because of this policy by the Watchtower. No other Christian denomination has such a policy. Even orthodox Jews allow for blood transfusions. That in itself speaks volumes

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The beard issue

by Ray Frankz in

this is my second topic here.

sorry for this biiig post.

i would like to tell you guys about one of the things that bothered me most, despite of being something quite simple, but since it affected me directly, so.... well, being a ministerial servant, i knew the bad view the jw in general have towards beards.

UnshackleTheChains

Hi Ray Frankz

If you want to know why you went through your experience for simply growing a beard, here is an extract from jw.orgs Branch correspondence guidelines. Only elders are privy to these rules btw.

The following is the extract on clothing and grooming. Note: I have highlighted the main points in bold and italics. Enjoy

CLOTHING AND GROOMING

Clothing and grooming styles vary around the world. (g76 8/8 24-6; w66 12/1 735-6) The Bible, in giving sound counsel to Christian sisters, sets forth basic principles that should guide men and women in the Christian congregation as to appropriate clothing and grooming. Thus, the basic question to consider is whether a certain style would befit someone “professing to reverence God.” (1 Tim. 2:9, 10; w02 8/1 1719; w01 1/15 5) As ministers, we are under scrutiny, and therefore mere personal preference should not be the deciding factor. (1 Cor. 4:9; w75 8/15 499-501) Consideration should be given to the effect our clothing and grooming will have on the consciences of others, inside and outside the congregation. (g79 4/22 27-8; w73 3/1 137-40) Our choice of styles should reflect the fact that we represent Jehovah.—g98 8/8 20-1; w97 6/15 16-18; w88 8/15 17; w87 9/15 14-15.

It is not wise to look to the world for standards on the subject of clothing and grooming. The Bible itself sets out principles to guide Christians. Without making rigid rules or getting involved in giving yes or no answers, elders should recommend what is appropriate dress and grooming by explaining Bible principles. (w77 3/1 149-50; w72 4/1 222-4) Draw attention to these, and encourage the brothers to make their decisions accordingly.

Scriptural principles about appropriate dress and grooming

Modesty is a Scriptural requirement.

—Prov. 11:2; Mic. 6:8.

Married women wisely consider the wishes of their husbands.—1 Cor. 7:34; Eph. 5:22-24.

Minors should obey their parents (or guardians), submitting to their decisions.—Prov. 1:8, 9; Col. 3:20.

Consider the effect on the attitude of others toward the congregation and its activity.—1 Cor. 10:29, 31, 32; 2 Cor. 4:2; Jas. 2:2.

Personal cleanliness and neatness are desirable.—2 Cor. 7:1.

When replying to specific inquiries on clothing and grooming, the following references in our publications may be helpful. Provocative dress: w87 9/15 14-15; w75 8/15 499-501; w72 4/1 222-4. Hairstyles: w91 6/1 30-1; w91 3/15 30; w73 3/1 140-1; w69 2/15 11415; w68 3/15 191. Jewelry and cosmetics: w91 6/1 30-1; w91 3/15 30. The wearing of a beard: g79 4/22 27-8; w75 8/15 500-501; w73 3/1 13740. Body piercings and decorations:

g00 8/8 18-19; g00 3/22 11-13.

Wearing clothing of the opposite sex is not proper if it is done for immoral purposes or in order to deceive another person. (Deut. 22:5) But this does not prohibit all wearing of slacks, work pants, ski suits in winter, and so forth, on the part of women. —w84 7/15 24-5; g76 8/8 25-6; w72 11/1 671-2; see also SEXUAL CONDUCT.

Jehovah’s organization has provided suggestions in the publications on appropriate attire for Christian meetings,

CLOTHING AND GROOMING (Cont’d)

for the ministry, and for visiting branch homes.—w98 4/1 30; km 3/98 7; od 138.

It should not be necessary to establish a lot of rules to govern what is acceptable on the platform or in the field service, but if styles are extreme or cause offense or stumbling, appropriate counsel can be given.—w77 3/1 149-50; w75 4/1 219; w73 3/1 138-9; w72 4/1 222-4; km 2/69 7.

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Sir Anthony Buzzard clears up something that always baffled me about Jesus and the Spirit

by UnshackleTheChains in

if you have ever wondered why jesus is always kept at the sidelines by the governing body, then watch this video.. sir anthony buzzard clarify's my own personal doubts and has helped me see exactly what jesus role is alongside the holy spirit.

for all christians searching for truth, this video is a must!.

just a side note.

UnshackleTheChains

Although an atheist now, i think this guy is a great speak and theologian. He's debate with two JW's over Jesus being Michael the archangel was brilliant (it's on youtube somewhere). I memorized his lines and use them with JWs

Hi pale emporer. Yes I saw that video. What I found interesting about their conversation was that the 2 witnesses sounded quite robotic in their efforts to explain. Anthony Buzzard easily tore their interpretation apart.

So, I think it's easier to see the JWs out of their santity halo there in the US than it is here in BR.

Hi Ray Frankz and welcome to the forum.

Yes, I think people are wising up much more in the US and Europe, particularly in the UK.

I would say however, that the internet has much to do with exposing the GB and their historical and changeable teachings and policies.

People like Anthony Buzzard help to bring about reason without dictating, something the GB seriously needs to learn and adopt.

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Sir Anthony Buzzard clears up something that always baffled me about Jesus and the Spirit

by UnshackleTheChains in

if you have ever wondered why jesus is always kept at the sidelines by the governing body, then watch this video.. sir anthony buzzard clarify's my own personal doubts and has helped me see exactly what jesus role is alongside the holy spirit.

for all christians searching for truth, this video is a must!.

just a side note.

UnshackleTheChains

If you have ever wondered why Jesus is always kept at the sidelines by the Governing Body, then watch this video.

Sir Anthony Buzzard clarify's my own personal doubts and has helped me see exactly what Jesus role is alongside the Holy spirit. For all Christians searching for truth, this video is a must!

Just a side note. Anthony Buzzard clearly speaks with conviction which is really telling. Not only does his talk make complete sense, but anyone can clearly see he speaks from the heart. Compare this talk to a JW talk (especially on JW broadcasts) where many teachings don't make sense and talks DON'T appear to be coming from the heart ie no conviction.

Enjoy

https://youtu.be/SRLb2zqSpTQ

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