Posts by UnshackleTheChains

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Bethel Lurkers-A woman's Heartfelt phonecall regarding the organisations inhumane shunning policy!

by UnshackleTheChains in

i hope bethel lurkers at warwick listen to the rational viewpoint of this australian woman in the recording below.

she virtually pleads with an australian branch member as to the reasons why shunning is inhumane and how unfair it is that individuals are being held captive within the watchtower organisation.

they can't simply leave officially without the threat of being shunned by friends and family members.. typically, the branch member responds in a robotic like manner, sticking rigidly to watchtower policy.. https://youtu.be/sc_t60ax5k8.

UnshackleTheChains

Stuff me! she goes from one angle to another and back again did she know why she phoned in the first place

Zeb

I think she got her point over quite clearly. Yes she rambled on a little. But it really highlighted her fears/impact if she did dissacociate. She expressed herself from the heart how unfair the shunning policy is.

For many of us (me and my mother included) who were proseletized when a witness showed up at our door, we were never informed of this policy when we were studying.

The woman in her phone call quite rightly highlighted that the organisation is a captive religion. No amount of rational reasoning seems to get through to the watchtower corporation as this phone call proved.

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Bethel Lurkers-A woman's Heartfelt phonecall regarding the organisations inhumane shunning policy!

by UnshackleTheChains in

i hope bethel lurkers at warwick listen to the rational viewpoint of this australian woman in the recording below.

she virtually pleads with an australian branch member as to the reasons why shunning is inhumane and how unfair it is that individuals are being held captive within the watchtower organisation.

they can't simply leave officially without the threat of being shunned by friends and family members.. typically, the branch member responds in a robotic like manner, sticking rigidly to watchtower policy.. https://youtu.be/sc_t60ax5k8.

UnshackleTheChains

I hope Bethel lurkers at Warwick listen to the rational viewpoint of this Australian woman in the recording below.

She virtually pleads with an Australian branch member as to the reasons why shunning is inhumane and how unfair it is that individuals are being held captive within the Watchtower organisation. They can't simply leave officially without the threat of being shunned by friends and family members.

Typically, the branch member responds in a robotic like manner, sticking rigidly to Watchtower policy.

https://youtu.be/sC_t60AX5k8

MESSAGE TO THE GOVERNING BODY.

PLEASE PUT AN END TO ALL YOUR HARMFUL POLICIES AND TEACHINGS.

SHOW CHRISTIAN LOVE BY LISTENING TO THE PLEAS OF YOUR MEMBERS; WELCOME CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK AND REVIEW SOME OF YOUR POLICIES AND TEACHINGS THAT ARE CAUSING SO MUCH SUFFERING AMONG THE MEMBERS.

END THE CONTROVERSIES THAT PLAGUE YOUR ORGANISATION.

UnshackleTheChains

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Question...

by ironsnake656 in

when you were an active member in the jwland, did you expect to receive any kind of help from a brother/sister, but they did not help you?

when i was in the jwland, i expected and was my belief that any brother/sister will help you in time of need, distress or trouble, because we were part of a "lovely organization".

but countless of times when i needed and asked for help, nobody from the org helped me.

UnshackleTheChains

I will never forget the time I experienced mild depression and my life was in the doldrums as a young man. I was living on my own and clearly needing some practical support in the way of advice about my bills, food, etc.

Elders advice- 'Auxilliary Pioneer'!!!

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Question...

by ironsnake656 in

when you were an active member in the jwland, did you expect to receive any kind of help from a brother/sister, but they did not help you?

when i was in the jwland, i expected and was my belief that any brother/sister will help you in time of need, distress or trouble, because we were part of a "lovely organization".

but countless of times when i needed and asked for help, nobody from the org helped me.

UnshackleTheChains

I would actually expect much more from a multi-billion dollar "Christian" religion. How about separate charitable corporations set up to help disadvantaged members of the community? Nope. Not even close

I think xjwsrock puts it really well in a nutshell.

If you think about it, not only have people no time in general for helping out individuals, what support mechanisms are in place for anyone! Eg There are no mother and toddler groups within the organisation, no youth groups within the organisation...... nothing!

And then they wonder why sister single with 2 kids or brother teenager isn't at the meetings regularly. It isn't hard to see why.

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JW match.com. Any good?

by UnshackleTheChains in

hi all.. no i'm not about to join 😉.

the mrs would never forgive me lol.

but out of curiosity, does anyone know of any individuals who have successfully met someone this way?.

UnshackleTheChains

Tried it once, just for kicks.

Nothing but users, psychos, and rejects. IMO

I always said there are only two types of JDub female. Those who are married, and those who are not, for very good reason. That is MY experience..yours may be different.

Let the thumbs down begin!

Lol FedUpJW

It's probably safer to go down the old fashioned route of setting up a walking group and invite everyone from a few congregations nearby in the hope of meeting a lady. That way you avoid the users, the psychos and the rejects lol 😂😂😂

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JW match.com. Any good?

by UnshackleTheChains in

hi all.. no i'm not about to join 😉.

the mrs would never forgive me lol.

but out of curiosity, does anyone know of any individuals who have successfully met someone this way?.

UnshackleTheChains

It's probably a good way for some individuals to meet given the fact that JW's in general have no social life.

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JW match.com. Any good?

by UnshackleTheChains in

hi all.. no i'm not about to join 😉.

the mrs would never forgive me lol.

but out of curiosity, does anyone know of any individuals who have successfully met someone this way?.

UnshackleTheChains

Hi all.

No I'm not about to join 😉. The Mrs would never forgive me lol

But out of curiosity, does anyone know of any individuals who have successfully met someone this way?

Had a lurk an noticed some good looking gals there, 😋

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Have you noticed this trend on social media amongst witnesses...?

by stuckinarut2 in

it seems that every 2nd witness often posts pictures of themselves at conventions, or out in 'service'.

but i have noticed that they never seem to post anything about the actual "spiritual content" of their activity!

instead, it is pictures of them with their witness "friends", along with some contrite comment like #bestlifeever (arrghhh).

UnshackleTheChains

They never discuss spiritual matters because they are not allowed their own views on matters. Everything is already laid out for us in WT literature. The GB do all the thinking for us.

A perfect example is when I was on holiday with some witnesses/aquaintances. I tried to initiate a conversation on a particular scripture and get their thoughts. I had one response saying the organisations view is blah blah blah. Then the subject completely changed to something else other than religion.

Jdubs are robots. They drink the koolaid and go along with things. They are not stimulated to have a view point on scriptures.

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Set the record straight!

by Colinconfused in

i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.

UnshackleTheChains

Colin confused

I went through what you are going through right now several years ago. I also said my goodbyes under a different forum name and earnestly wanted to be a practicing JW (I had faded for about 6 years at that point).

Over the years however, I would lurk back here due to some of the stuff emanating from Watchtower and eventually came back to this site.

Why?

Well.....when you bottle things up for so long, you just have to vent. You cannot open up your heart about your deepest thoughts to other JWs Because of the fear and guilt complex we experience. So to offload, you come here and speak your mind.

Note: I have a strong belief in God, but my views on scripture differ from Watchtower. I only attend the meetings now and again for purely social reasons because of family and friends.

Best of luck to you as do understand where you are coming from though.

UTC

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I wish I had not gone to the meeting last night

by stillin in

the first thing i saw when i went in was the two video screens having the watchtower singers chorus doing a number.

the sound wasn't up enough to make out the song, but the video was grotesque.

the singers were swaying to the music, all independent of each other, no discipline, actually sloppy-looking.

UnshackleTheChains

Yep. The old bunker video rears its head again. I'm sitting there thinking OMG 😶