Posts by UnshackleTheChains

I met a 'sister' in the street about a year after I left and she asked me how I was and I said "Absolutely fine," and as if she was expecting me to be ill from leaving the org she said to me, "What are you on? Most of the bros and sisters in the congregation are on anti depressants

Half banana

A Friend on this forum I had a few pints with told me the exact same thing. He ran into some Witnesses in town a while ago (he faded about 12 years ago). When asked how he was doing by an elder and pioneer, he replied that he had never felt better.

They were 'to say the least' shocked at his reply. They were expecting him to say the complete opposite. 😉

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Many Witnesses are just plain tired out!

by UnshackleTheChains in

i believe that many witnesses are tired out or at least tiring out.

i know....... because i am tired out!.

imagine going to college for 20 years not knowing when college is finished.

UnshackleTheChains

Doing everything I was supposed to do as I didn't have children, regular pioneering, left me completely burnt out, exhausted and ill

Xanthippe

There's an old saying. 'Eaten bread is soon forgotten'

The culture of this organisation is to push and push individuals to do more and more with little thanks or care for their wellbeing.

When you stopped attending, I wonder how many elders and other loving brothers and sisters in your hall came to your home to encourage and thank you for all those years of service you put in!

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Favorite Quotations from Movies

by compound complex in

"the way you walked was thorny, through no fault of your own, but as the rain enters the soil, the river enters the sea, so tears run to a predestined end.

now you will have peace for eternity.

" -- maleva, the wolf man.

UnshackleTheChains

'I'm Spartacus'

https://youtu.be/FKCmyiljKo0

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Watchtower illogic

by Vanderhoven7 in

there are a number of things i find that defy logic when it come to watchtower religion.

here is a list...please feel free to add/subtract from it.

a. blood prohibitions: .

UnshackleTheChains

You are not allowed to celebrate a joyous occasion such the anniversary date of your child's birth (birthdays).

Yet no where in the Bible does it prohibit birthdays, not even in mosaic law.

Yet we can celebrate wedding anniversaries and wear our pagan wedding bands?

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Watchtower illogic

by Vanderhoven7 in

there are a number of things i find that defy logic when it come to watchtower religion.

here is a list...please feel free to add/subtract from it.

a. blood prohibitions: .

UnshackleTheChains

Bible: Every eye will see Jesus coming on the clouds.

Watchtower: Every eye won't see Jesus coming on the clouds.

What is meant by his ‘coming on the clouds’ and ‘every eye seeing him’?

Rev. 1:7: “Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him.” (Also Matthew 24:30; Mark 13:26; Luke 21:27)

What is indicated by “clouds”? Invisibility. When an airplane is in a thick cloud or above the clouds, people on the ground usually cannot see it, although they may hear the roar of the engines. Jehovah told Moses: “I am coming to you in a dark cloud.” Moses did not see God, but that cloud indicated Jehovah’s invisible presence. (Ex. 19:9; see also Leviticus 16:2;Numbers 11:25.) If Christ were to appear visibly in the heavens, it is obvious that not “every eye” would see him. If he appeared over Australia, for example, he would not be visible in Europe, Africa, and the Americas, would he?

In what sense will ‘every eye see him’? They will discern from events on earth that he is invisibly present. Also referring to sight that is not physical, John 9:41 reports: “Jesus said to [the Pharisees]: ‘If you were blind, you would have no sin. But now you say, “We see.” Your sin remains.’” (Compare Romans 1:20.) Following Christ’s return, some persons show faith; they recognize the sign of his presence. Others reject the evidence, but when Christ goes into action as God’s executioner of the wicked, even they will discern from the manifestation of his power that the destruction is not from men but from heaven. They will know what is happening because they were warned in advance. Because of what is overtaking them, they will “beat themselves in grief

New Living Translation Matthew 24:30
And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory

Are JW.org not aware of TV news reports?

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Watchtower illogic

by Vanderhoven7 in

there are a number of things i find that defy logic when it come to watchtower religion.

here is a list...please feel free to add/subtract from it.

a. blood prohibitions: .

UnshackleTheChains

That Jesus is not the mediator of all men. That Jesus is mediator to the anointed ones only.

Yet 1 Tim 2:5 says

one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

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Who is "The" Creator ? Jehovah or Jesus ?

by smiddy3 in

is jehovah the creator ?.

apparently jehovah created the "word" or "logos" ( jesus).

and he never created anything else according to bible scripture.. however the first born of creation the logos /jesus was used to create everything else in the material world.. so then isn`t jesus also a creator ?.

UnshackleTheChains

Hi Smiddy,

I personally believe it was Yahweh God.

I am still in two minds about Jesus pre existence. I am currently reading some books by J Dan Gill and Anthony Buzzard on this subject.

Here is a short video by Anthony Buzzard regarding 'the word' in John chapter 1.

https://youtu.be/nFcIFum3wz0

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October 10, 2017 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS Re: Branch Relocation Newsletter (UK)

by wifibandit in

october 10, 2017 to all congregations re: branch relocation—newsletter.

britain branch relocation project edition 6 autumn 2017.

UnshackleTheChains

When they sell on this piece of real estate, I hope they sell it to Willy Wonka or Cadburys. It would make a great chocolate factory with high production in a central location 😝