Posts by UnshackleTheChains

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Watchtower Victims Memorial Day!!!

by Christian Gutierrez in

jw
friends

hey guys i just wanted to share with you all a video we made this week for watchtower victims memorial day.

cheers!

😊.

UnshackleTheChains

Excellent video.

The Society's shunning policy needs to end.The GB MUST be feeling under alot of pressure to change their harmful policies such as shunning given the exposure such videos are having in the media

Keep up the good work guys.

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Victoria Derbyshire TV show on shunning - video link

by Isambard Crater in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyzbjz8x9y4.

Watched it last night. Very effective. Hopefully more witnesses will wake up and realise this cruel policy has to stop. My heart goes out to those who were interviewed and to all those affected by this man made policy.

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I'm writing a letter to my country's branch

by Ray Frankz in

hi everyone.. well, i have some good news.

after having a terrible moment arguing with my mom about the 1914 teaching and all it evolves (she get really upset and i felt great regret for starting the argument) she came to me next day and started talking with a much more open mind, and she talked about a lot of concerns too.. she and my father naivily expressed the wish to write to bethel to ask about 607bc.

i told in all the possible ways it wouldn't work.

UnshackleTheChains

The one brother, John Joseph May, had questions (for one thing) about 1914... and another bout why Freddy Franz was DF'd. He "rang" Brother Barr (who had been a friend of the family for many years) and then wrote him with about 12 questions, never got an answer, got an "acknowledgement" but no answers.

They used a lot of money to travel to NY to speak with the GB.... they would not meet with them. You can hear this dear person tell the story himself

If my research is correct, there were several congregations in the Dublin area; and many witnesses left due to the way John may and Martin merriman were treated both in the United States by the GB AND when back in Ireland by the CO and elders. It created quite a stir at the time.

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I'm writing a letter to my country's branch

by Ray Frankz in

hi everyone.. well, i have some good news.

after having a terrible moment arguing with my mom about the 1914 teaching and all it evolves (she get really upset and i felt great regret for starting the argument) she came to me next day and started talking with a much more open mind, and she talked about a lot of concerns too.. she and my father naivily expressed the wish to write to bethel to ask about 607bc.

i told in all the possible ways it wouldn't work.

UnshackleTheChains

Ray Frankz

I am a letter writer too. I have sent several letters so far. My wife is aware of my activities and has given me an amusing nick name as a result.

If you are writing a letter in your own name (which I would advise against). Be careful how the letter is written. It is unlikely you will get a reply to be honest, but never know. About 5 years ago, I wrote a letter about the fact that Jesus seems to be left to the sidelines alot. Strangely, perhaps coincidental they had an entire convention devoted to Jesus Christ the year after. I'm not saying my letter had a direct impact, but who knows what effect our letters can have.

Best of luck

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Why I like this site

by UnshackleTheChains in

the reason i like this site is in the fact that it speaks the truth warts and all.

the very title 'jehovahs witness discussion forum' draws the avarage witness to the site, perhaps thinking it is 'apostate' free.. the good thing is that jw's can read the real truth about the organisation/society...no holds barred.

my hope is that more people caught up in this captive religious organisation will open their eyes to reality!.

UnshackleTheChains

The reason I like this site is in the fact that it speaks the truth warts and all. The very title 'Jehovahs witness discussion forum' draws the avarage witness to the site, perhaps thinking it is 'apostate' free.

The good thing is that JW's can read the real truth about the organisation/society...no holds barred.

My hope is that more people caught up in this captive religious organisation will open their eyes to reality!

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Family of Jehovah's Witness who died after refusing blood transfusion can't keep suing doctors

by pale.emperor in

http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/07/court_nixes_lawsuit_by_family.html.

the family of a jehovah's witness who died after repeatedly refusing blood transfusions can't sue the hospital where doctors begged for a chance to save her life, a state appeals court ruled.. the case, outlined in an opinion by superior court judge jacqueline o. shogan, involves a convergence of religion, medicine and the law.. its focus is on what happened before terri seels-davila, a jehovah's witness missionary, died after giving birth at hahnemann university hospital in philadelphia in november 2010.. seels-davila, who had been serving on mission with her husband in nicaragua, chose hahnemann because of its "bloodless medicine" program for patients who won't agree to having blood transfusions, including jehovah's witnesses, shogan noted.

the treatment plan for seels-davila called for recycling her own blood back into her system.. yet that proved to be inadequate when complications of her delivery required seels-davila to deliver by cesarean section.

UnshackleTheChains

Another waste of a young woman's life. It is just so sad.. The WT corporation will will face a backlash when they eventually get rid of 'their" blood policy

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Do they know that you are here?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

have you ever admitted to your jw family and "friends" that you read apostate sites?.

UnshackleTheChains

My wife and mother know, but don't know who I am on here.

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What happened in 1995?

by pale.emperor in

i was born in 1984 so was only 9yo in 1995. i read on various posts on here and on other websites about false expectations about 1975 and 1995. i'm aware of the 1975 failure but what was said in 1995?.

UnshackleTheChains

"Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away"

Ok. Let's break this down. For many many years 'Emphasis' is given by the leaders of the ONLY true religion on earth by using the words most importantly. So, for Joe public and the faithful, it's 'LISTEN UP FOLKS'. WE are God's mouth piece, his channel of communication; and according JEHOVAH GOD, he has promised that the new world/age is coming within the lifetime of individuals who actually saw the events of 1914 (ie the outbreak of world war 1). The time when Jesus came into Kingdom power in heaven and Satan hurled to the vicinity of the earth. You therefore must listen to God, trust in God and have faith in God by preaching this message far and wide. It is 'THE TRUTH'

Roll on November 1995

Suddenly this MOST IMPORTANT promise by GOD has subtly been changed to building confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world that is about to replace the present wicked, lawless system of things.

So who got the generation teaching wrong then. The Society implied that God had made the promise about the generation who saw the events of 1914 and that they would not pass away. But that promised prediction was actually proven false. It was not God's promise. It was a false teaching by men claiming to be God's channel of communication.

So what damage has this caused?

Well firstly, Just think how that teaching has made God look. People lose faith in God because of such false prophecies. In fact, many have lost faith as a result.

The reality is that it was never God who made such a promise. It was the leaders of a publishing corporation who falsely made such a prediction and shamefully used Jehovah's name as their guaranteed stamp of approval in their literature and emphasized this for years.

Think how angry God must feel when 'men' do such things. Well we do know how Jehovah views such matters. The Governing Body need to be reminded of his warning given to his people of the past. The following statement is something Jehovah definately spoke and should be a warning for all Christian faith groups who presume to prophecy in his name.

Deuteronomy 18:20 (ESV)

'But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die'

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My finfings

by Issa in

i'm glad i found this website.

thanks for everyone who read my experience.

at first, i really didn't know what to do after i woke up, but i occupied myself doing research about the wt society.

UnshackleTheChains

My family is not completely in the org (The youngest of my sisters is currently studying). My other sister left the org, but she's still convinced it's the truth. I'm worried about her mental health because it has taken a toll on her. It's the indoctrination that has gotten her. I'm glad I left. I can't wait to tell my parents the truth about this org. Hopefully they can understand my experience and my decision

Hi Issa

I'm not sure if your parents are baptized, but be careful about your decision to DA. It is a captive / high control religion in that you cannot leave without consequences. If you have many relatives involved, some if not most will either shun you or limit their association out of 'loyalty' to Jehovah (aka the organisation).

You will find that many here have simply faded to avoid the shunning policy coming into effect.

You need to way things up carefully and allow yourself time to make an informed decision.

Best wishes to you.

UTC

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My awakening and concern

by Issa in

good evening everyone, i go by issa.

as many former ex-witnesses, i "woke up" from believing that the jw org is the "truth".

this happened during this month thanks to information from jw-facts and youtube videos about ex-witnesses' experience in this org.

UnshackleTheChains

Welcome ISSA,

Thanks for sharing your experience. As humans, we are always inquisitive about what is true and what is false. We can sense when things don't sound right. The Society has fallen into the same trap as the Pharisees of Jesus day by making up endless rules. On top of that, they complicated the word of God with interpretations that simply don't make sense. A mixture of truth and falsehood.

Eg rev 5:10 says the holy ones will rule OVER the earth in the NWT. Something I could never get my head around ie how can you rule the nation's from the sky and invisibly?

Yet pretty much every other Bible says UPON the earth or ON the earth. Now that makes sense and ties in perfectly with the prophecies of the Hebrew scriptures such as Daniel, Isaiah, Psalms

All the best to you in your own spiritual journey