let's play devils advocate here.. put yourself in the governing body's shoes.
they are well aware of all the issues they are facing.
they know their numbers (they 'do the math' as they say in the us).
Personally I think this religion is so ingrained in corruption and foul I don't think it can reverse its doctrines, too many people have died too many families destroyed
Mmmm...Has Watchtower gone too far beyond the pale to turn things around? Time will tell!
i have had greatly varied experiences with hlc members over the years.
i was never one myself, but i knew several of them personally.
most struck me as being generally decent human beings.
Just wanted to say a bit more about the HLC guys - the promoters of noblood alternatives.
The HLC are special pioneers. That is the WT class they belong to. The special target of their special ministry is the medical profession. They are engaged in evangelism/promotion of the noblood industry. Their goal is to convert health care professionals, doctors, and health care systems to noblood philosophy.
The WTS has created a cult that operates in behind the religious cult that they present to the world - they operate and support a no blood cult and the HLC members' job is to look for noblood conversions within the medical world.
An HLC guy is a Special Pioneer. The JW "tax dollar" supports the lobbying of medical professionals
I think what Orphan Crow explains really well is that Watchtower has in a proverbial sense let the genie out of the bottle!! Very difficult to get back in.
i have had greatly varied experiences with hlc members over the years.
i was never one myself, but i knew several of them personally.
most struck me as being generally decent human beings.
My daughter had to have a significant operation and was only a year old. Neither my wife or I had any idea of 'ward of court' as it is not exactly publicised by the organisation, and we were both young back then.
My wife was absolutely adamant that our daughter was not to have blood. I kept expressing my concerns to her about it in the weeks up to the operation. In the end she suggested I speak to an elder who was on the HLC. I couldn't believe that she didn't share the same concerns and seemed to have a blind devotion to the blood policy.
I explained what was happening and sought his advice. I was expecting him to encourage me to make a stand on blood etc. To my surprise, he gave me an answer from a common sense approach. He explained to me about ward of court and that the surgeons would be in a position lawfully to administer blood if they felt there was a significant risk.
I was really surprised at his answer and immediately felt a huge weight lifted of me. I told my wife and she 'immediately' accepted what was said...which says something in itself.
I was very grateful for the common sense approach this elder had and for easing my fears at the time.
I wish this same common sense approach could be used across the board regardless of age.
let's play devils advocate here.. put yourself in the governing body's shoes.
they are well aware of all the issues they are facing.
they know their numbers (they 'do the math' as they say in the us).
Oh. I forgot to mention in my previous post about the child/adult safeguarding policy. Yeah, they need to get real on that one!!!
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2017/11/1/jehovahs-witnesses-sell-towers-storied-brooklyn-heights-hotel.
jehovah's witnesses sell the towers, a storied brooklyn heights hotel.
the jehovah's witnesses have sold the towers, a storied brooklyn heights hotel.
Absolutely Incredible. I just can't get my head around the wealth of this organisation. It's just mind blowing.
As a Catholic, I used to wonder if Jesus Christ would have sat on a tank in world war 2 fighting his disciples of another country. Matthew 26:52
As a Jehovah's Witness , I often wonder if Jesus would be one of those business men making a kill in real estate! Matthew 21:12-13
let's play devils advocate here.. put yourself in the governing body's shoes.
they are well aware of all the issues they are facing.
they know their numbers (they 'do the math' as they say in the us).
Loosen restrictions on disfellowshipping, holidays, nonsense of spying on members, and they would be ok. But the huge egos involved in the GB will never allow that to happen
What comes across in many posts is the issue of shunning. This is clearly a policy they need to review. Also, allowing members to use their own conscience on matters of blood, birthdays, holidays etc.
I would also add that they should follow the example of the first century (AND during CT Russell's time) in allowing each congregation greater autonomy.
That way the GB are not being masters over our faith;
That way the holy spirit would be allowed to do the work Jesus employed it for;
That way members can look to Jesus and not the GB for guidance.
That way, each congregation can 'make use of literature' provided by the watchtower as they deem suitable and not conditional.
I wonder which would be easier for the GB - moving mountains or getting rid of their own ego's 🙄
let's play devils advocate here.. put yourself in the governing body's shoes.
they are well aware of all the issues they are facing.
they know their numbers (they 'do the math' as they say in the us).
Let's play devils advocate here.
Put yourself in the Governing Body's shoes. They are well aware of all the issues they are facing. They know their numbers (They 'do the math' as they say in the US). They MUST do something (AND SOON) to end all the bad press and the consequential loss in membership.
So what steps do the leadership need to take in order to turn things around before it's too late?.
i'd like to show you a short video i made about exjw activism in poland.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt3qdtyxgd8.
i'm one of the people responsible for those information campaigns/protests, so you can ask me anything you like.
there's a lot i didn't show on the video because of the limited time i have for editing, i have tons of footage more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64xhcoowr6y.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhuvmvbjk-q.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bejhmfrzl0.
Fair plays to the organisers. Anything that draws attention to this high control religion is a bonus. I wish them the best 👍
it certainly has to be one of the most exciting times to live in as an awake ex witness!.
the wave of momentum we are part of as thousands awaken from the hold of the society is a joy to be a part of.
the internet helps us to see that we are not alone.
Hopefully the momentum will continue 👍
