I've been following this thread, (thanks again for your experience) and it makes me realize what freedom I have to not jump through the hoops of a weeks worth of a CO's increased activity listening to their harassment of the sheep, breathing fire and threats, whipping us to continue towing the line, beating us up emotionally, and to top it all off after after about two weeks later hear from the accounts servant that the C.O. had x dollars in expenses and we need to pass a resolution to cover them. There were some CO's kinder than others, but when the jerks came around I counldn't help but think, "and we are paying for this whipping?".
JakeM2012
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Hello and my exit story from WTS
by free2Bme13 ini thought it was fitting for me to share my freedom from the witnesses story on independence day weekend.. i dont have any secret info, just experiences that happened to me and started to open my eyes.. i was a third generation, raised in the truth kid who was never supposed to be born, and then never supposed to graduate high school.
ive now been out of high school longer than i was in school.. the beginning of the end started a little less than a decade ago.
i was late 20s at the time.
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Hello and my exit story from WTS
by free2Bme13 ini thought it was fitting for me to share my freedom from the witnesses story on independence day weekend.. i dont have any secret info, just experiences that happened to me and started to open my eyes.. i was a third generation, raised in the truth kid who was never supposed to be born, and then never supposed to graduate high school.
ive now been out of high school longer than i was in school.. the beginning of the end started a little less than a decade ago.
i was late 20s at the time.
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JakeM2012
free 2bme, Thank you for your experience. Whenever someone writes their personal experience down and it has the ring of truth like so many others experiences it verifies the other experiences, I think it resonates a loud warning to anyone willing to read the stories.
I really appreciate your thought on CO's and the different ones you mentioned. Previously, as an elder, we (elders) would put our little "just eat their crap smiles" on our faces and know that the CO was to leave at the end of the week. I was like you, one day my family and I just left. Thanks again:)Let Freedom Ring!!!
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Warwick project... I had no clue it was this big!!!
by sosoconfused inhttp://www.townofwarwick.org/wt_con/_appendix%20j.pdf.
of course i was aware that the new headquarters would be there but according to the above plans it is immense!.
253 acres???
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"they also said they would bring trade of approx ~$100 per visitor to the site"
That's not bringing much to the area considering the price of a fill up of gasoline. Oh, the visitors are supposed to donate all their money to WT and leave with nothing.
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Post 6: My brother turns on me now - Possible Legal advice
by sosoconfused inthis is a letter i received today with my brother turning on me based on something that was told to him by my crazy mother.
he works for me, yet has not spoken a word to me in months because he is a self-righteous little dick.. .
what i would like to know from someone who knows the law, is it possible i can sue him if he pressures people to not work with me because of my religious beliefs????
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JakeM2012
Sosocofused, I posted on another forum that your brother has effectively silenced you to (witness in the family) and witnesses. He now has control over what they hear of your "condition".
Personally, I would get him out of the business immediately and I say not even wait for a two weeks notice, he's fired. (Or he quit, then get out of here). Disloyalty to an employer is not something to play around with.
I've been through a similar situation after my dad died, with a fleshly brother that wanted the business and me out. But I had been there much longer than his few months, I had more stock, etc. So he started the character assasination machine going on in the congregation and the family. He was creative in making up lies, it was ridiculous, but effective. Interesting, witnesses play dirty, and use their speech to slander whoever, they will steal out the back door, slander you to customers and clients, and then slander you to your family of how bad you are. Witnesses eager to hear the gossip will believe anything without supporting evidence.
Donald Trump won this law suit: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/news/former-beauty-queen-ordered-pay-donald-trump-5million-184353363.html
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Tech 49: My Tripping Point, Part 2
by Tech49 inafter reading some of your other posts and experiences, especially regarding the elder's school, i am reminded of part 2 of my experience down the rabbit hole.. the last elder's school i attended was in 2011. i remember vividly the 3 day event.
i remember vividly being bored out of my mind!.
as has been stated by others, the hours of monotone counsel and examples and experiences were continually beating on your brain with the usual stuff:.
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Tech 49,
I appreciated your experience, and I believe everything you said happened as I have been there also. A few changes with the story and name changes but it is the same. I agree with you, I thank these bat crazy people for treating me so badly because it helped me wake up. And now years down the road I count my blessings. Thanks for sharing Tech
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Apostate: From 279 Facebook friends to 81 overnight... thanks MOM!
by sosoconfused inthe drama continues, i log on to facebook this morning and notice that i have about 20 some odd personal messages from people calling me an apostate to they will return to me when i return to jehovah.. all of this based upon my brother informing others that i have "apostate thoughts".
my mother also encourage long-time famil friends to "unfriend" me because i have taken my stand on the side of satan... wow.
don't you just love this international brotherhood.
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Your brother sounds like he has some issues with your financial position and ability to run a company. From my similar experience, my brother became totally two faced, even to the point of making up stories, and continued his character assasination on me for years before I found out, (or had proof).
In that time period, he was able to isolate my mother from any association with me or my family, many elder friends I had over the years suddenly stopped association (not all at once though) and he was stealing from the company, (not petty theft.)
In fact, one brother working for me for years called one night and told me that my brother was screwing me over, and I thanked him for reporting it to me. I would say to "proceed carefully", whatever you say or don't say, he will make something up to continue his character assasination. There is no telling what he has told people.
Your brother now has control over what people hear of "what you are saying" and of your "spiritual condition" as noted with your FB friends, and can and will make up anything necessary to advance his agenda, most likely destroying you. It is only starting with the FB "friends".
And witnesses talk about the anger issues and mental disease of apostates.
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Relief Work and $$$
by allyouneedislove inwas just talking to a jw who just got back from oklahoma doing relief work for jws who had their homes damaged.
i didn't know this, but he said that the process goes like this.
the homeowner usually has a payout from the insurance company in hand.
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I always thought this was interesting that brothers would show up with their families, pay their own ways (transportation), sometimes provide their own shelter and food, out of the goodness of their hearts. But WTBTS was there with an open hand to harvest the money. I wonder how long they would continue the work if no one donated anything to help them. Perhaps suppliers in these disaster areas need to be given a heads up of different true charitable organizations.
When Houston flooded a few years ago, I know they went through many "committees" on the RBC's that helped in the restoration. It ended up taking years. I just asked one on the committee when he was visiting my area, "why don't you just help put blue tarps on the houses and then make sure the brothers are not conned by some traveling construction company. Let the world fix it, it would have been done a year sooner. No answer, I got up and got him another beer.
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Rumor: April 3, 2015 start of Great Tribulation?
by Londo111 inon another forum, somebody mentioned that there is a growing belief with those high up in watchtower hierarchy that the great tribulation will begin april 3, 2015. evidently, one has to check the skycharts for that date and compare with 33 ceand also compare with the history of jws for past 40, 80, 120 years.
dont ask me to verify the rumor...these things come and go.
im sure lots of people in hq believe all sorts of things.. .
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JakeM2012
EdenOne - "I'm still hoping for a reform that will wash away the old oligarchy and their praetorian guard ... one that will bring an acknowlegement of past mistakes, corrects whacky doctrines, softens the stance on shunning, and humbly apologizes and begs for forgiveness before God and Christ. It's a lot to ask, I know ... perhaps too much to ask, by now."
While we are dreaming, why don't we have them make a humble announcement at the bethel morning worship that they have been caught up in a religious Ponzi scheme and that they admit they have no communication channel with God, are not lead by Holy Spirit, that everything that an apostate has said is true, and they have been making everything up since the beginning. Then, everyone is dismissed to go home.
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Friend gets "scriptural divorce" over wifes transgressions before they got married...
by sosoconfused inso i have a friend in a congregation in new jersey who recently called me to tell me that he got a divorce.
nothing surprising there at first but it is the fact of when it happened.
his wife began pioneering april 1, and after about three weeks she came to him and told him that about 4 years she had engaged in loose conduct (fondling the penis and the guy kissing her breasts) during a time that she was inactive.
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JakeM2012
"How much you wanna bet that one of those blathering idiot Elders™ fantasizes about your friend's wife and would love to have her hands on his dick?"
That's what I was thinking, some elder wants the wife!
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Friend gets "scriptural divorce" over wifes transgressions before they got married...
by sosoconfused inso i have a friend in a congregation in new jersey who recently called me to tell me that he got a divorce.
nothing surprising there at first but it is the fact of when it happened.
his wife began pioneering april 1, and after about three weeks she came to him and told him that about 4 years she had engaged in loose conduct (fondling the penis and the guy kissing her breasts) during a time that she was inactive.
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JakeM2012
"I do know however that if a brother who is married goes to a strip club and pays for a lap dance it is considered adultery. This was told to us by our instructor at the week long elders school."
Soso, what about the question of if there was "penetration"? The elders always like to ask this in their committee meetings. It sounds like they are bluffing to keep the elders inline, that's just too much fun.