Posts by JakeM2012

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Crazy JW urban legend

by Simon in

a sure guarantee that this was bogus (really, any reasoning is required at all?

) was that it did the rounds applied to john denver, annie lennox and others.. basically, they relied on satan (oh yes) for their musical ability (i knew it) and any jws in the audience would be asked to leave because ... (drum roll) ... they blocked the signal to satan so couldn't perform with them present!.

anyone else remember that gem?.

JakeM2012

When we used to spin records, rumor with teenagers was if you played Stairway to Heaven backwards it said "worship Satan" at a certain spot. I heard it myself. Many trashed their records.

There for awhile the Beatles and the Eagles were bad and you were thought to be Satanic Evil if you listened to them or had their albums. The song, 'I want to hold your hand" is so spiritually polluting to young persons. LOL. When the Eagles reunited and did some concerts there were several elders in my neck of the woods that "secretly" went to the concerts by themselves.

Oh, Glen Cambell is studying. I don't know how many times I heard that one come around.

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Ever read back your own posts and thinking WTF?

by DeWandelaar in

as time goes forward people tend to change... expecially if you get out of a cult.

your brain for some reason gets de- and reprogrammed and you get other insights and new opinions.

you become a other human.. when reading back some of my previous posts (of about a year ago) i could not help but have a wtf-moment... i even felt a sudden way of "shame" of all the bullshit i was writing.. if you want to read some of mine just check my posts of about a year back.

JakeM2012

New York44M, excellent point. Not that any would do that here. LOL.

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Do you look like the apostate they warned you about?

by Angus Beef in

after waking up and wanting to get out of this nightmare, the word apostate is really bothering me.

if i quitely become inactive, fade away will i just be looked at as "always weak".

i want to scream out how big a fool i was.. and now telling my poor young daughter how wrong i was to bring her up as a jw.

JakeM2012

Yes, I agree with Terry saying, "I'm so normal-looking I make JW's look rough-edged!"

Here's are a few selfies from my apostate Iphone of me and my brother. I have heard that other apostates love beards! and gums! I don't know why the brothers and the beautiful sisters in heels ignore me at the Kingdom Hall, but I feel absolutely ostrasized. I was thinking of meeting with the elders to re-activate my publisher status so I could date some younger sisters.

old man

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Walk into your Kingdom Hall and tell us what you saw !

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

this was me driving into the parking lot and into the kingdom hall:.

every week the same brothers and sisters are late getting to the meeting.

elders are talking with other elders ( who always have notes and folders in their hands).

JakeM2012

Heay mon, Island man says, " Gratuitous, plastic displays of affection that boastfully scream: "See how loving we are? That proves we're the true religion!"

Just because active witnesses don't enlist in the armed services and actually kill people, does not prove that they "have love among themselves"= "we're the true religion". Absence of murder doesn't mean that there is love. My disfunctional family is a great example. Just saying.

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Annual meeting. Greek scholars please help!

by DATA-DOG in

below is a statement from gb member gerrit losch.

notice what is said about the fds.

is this true?

JakeM2012

Followed BobCats references, Thanks. Bumping this discussion, particularly Leolaia's contributions.

Leolaia, what a wonderful mind. Thanks:)

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making connections

by losingit in

one of the thing i appreciate most about this site is reading other people's experiences while in and out of the cult.

when i read other people's stories, it helps to validate my own experiences.

i rarely talked to anyone else besides my husband concerning my doubts, and so for the entire time that i was in i thought i was the only one having these negative experiences with the brothers in the kingdom hall.

JakeM2012

Losingit, wrote, " I suffered bouts of depression during my time in the cult, and I now understand that jwism holds the brunt of the fault there. "

I believe this to be true and couldn't agree with you more. I have experieced the cycles of depression myself. It would make an interesting study if someone was able to prove a connection between the beliefs of Jw's, their environment, the indoctrination at the meetings, guilt trips, congregational politics and etc, and physical or mental disorders.

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Today I received my first ever birthday gift!

by NVR2L8 in

jw
friends

i received a parcel at work from my daughter and her boyfriend.

it contained a birthday card in the shape of a motorcycle leather jacket and a book on rides you can take using the back roads in my part of the world!

my eyes filled with tears as i was reading the card.

JakeM2012

NVR, happy birthday, please be careful riding those scenic routes in your part of the world. I totalled my bike this year and at 50, it's hard to heal up physically. Uhg

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Do You Think Anyone Looks Down On People Who Commit "Fornication"?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i think only in strict religious circles, is it considered taboo.. does someone's "fornicating" bother you?.

JakeM2012

Let's take this discussion a step further, does anyone look down on someone committing adultery? What are the current standards that you see?

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making connections

by losingit in

one of the thing i appreciate most about this site is reading other people's experiences while in and out of the cult.

when i read other people's stories, it helps to validate my own experiences.

i rarely talked to anyone else besides my husband concerning my doubts, and so for the entire time that i was in i thought i was the only one having these negative experiences with the brothers in the kingdom hall.

JakeM2012

Jen 1, welcome to the forum. I understand what you are going through as I have suffered similar health issues and symptoms, and difficult situations in the congregation. You can find support here, it does take time to heal though. I particularly can identify with your comments about elders wives. I have not figured out why JW congregations are so prone to one or two elders wives believing it is their mission in life to run the congregation.

I am seriously working on trying to cut the final emotional strings so that I can put the witness life behind me and move on, hopefully, with the previous life slowly forgotten in the rear view mirror.

Welcome again, if you wish to post an introductory post and tell us about yourself we would certainly be interested.

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WT Study March 15 on jw.org

by Gayle in

only scanned,,couple articles on necessary on having a old-age long-term plan now.

reality is hitting them more than ever.. also, australia showed "publisher" amount.

i assume it was the "peak" stat.

JakeM2012

Just scanned through the articles, yes they set it up well. First article, Be content sacrificing even further, (second article) maintain a positive attitude about being screwed, then they lower the boom on responsibility of the elder Jw parents resting not only on the family,

but if members of the elderly are in Bethel or in full time service then they provide a wonderful guilt trip for the congregation to accept the responsibility of taking care of the elderly so the grown children can remain in Bethel service or pioneer.

"Evidently", WTBTDS wants their cake and eat it too. Basically, the message is, as I take it, whoever is not in full time service take care of these old people that are getting in our (GB's) way.