Welcome! Cookiemonster, 38 years ago, my father told me if I wanted to go to the university to study structural engineering I would have to move out. Seventeen years old with no resources, I stayed. I wish that I had the chance to do it all again, I would have walked out and lived on the street if needed. Stay your course, you'll do fine. As mentioned, there's some of us that it took longer to figure out the Ponzi scheme.
JakeM2012
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Finally decided to introduce myself here
by cookiemaster inhey guys !
i've stopped believing the watchtower crap a few years ago.
i achieved this on my own, despite being raised as one.
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Crazy JW urban legend
by Simon ina sure guarantee that this was bogus (really, any reasoning is required at all?
) was that it did the rounds applied to john denver, annie lennox and others.. basically, they relied on satan (oh yes) for their musical ability (i knew it) and any jws in the audience would be asked to leave because ... (drum roll) ... they blocked the signal to satan so couldn't perform with them present!.
anyone else remember that gem?.
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When we used to spin records, rumor with teenagers was if you played Stairway to Heaven backwards it said "worship Satan" at a certain spot. I heard it myself. Many trashed their records.
There for awhile the Beatles and the Eagles were bad and you were thought to be Satanic Evil if you listened to them or had their albums. The song, 'I want to hold your hand" is so spiritually polluting to young persons. LOL. When the Eagles reunited and did some concerts there were several elders in my neck of the woods that "secretly" went to the concerts by themselves.
Oh, Glen Cambell is studying. I don't know how many times I heard that one come around.
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Ever read back your own posts and thinking WTF?
by DeWandelaar inas time goes forward people tend to change... expecially if you get out of a cult.
your brain for some reason gets de- and reprogrammed and you get other insights and new opinions.
you become a other human.. when reading back some of my previous posts (of about a year ago) i could not help but have a wtf-moment... i even felt a sudden way of "shame" of all the bullshit i was writing.. if you want to read some of mine just check my posts of about a year back.
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New York44M, excellent point. Not that any would do that here. LOL.
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Do you look like the apostate they warned you about?
by Angus Beef inafter waking up and wanting to get out of this nightmare, the word apostate is really bothering me.
if i quitely become inactive, fade away will i just be looked at as "always weak".
i want to scream out how big a fool i was.. and now telling my poor young daughter how wrong i was to bring her up as a jw.
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Yes, I agree with Terry saying, "I'm so normal-looking I make JW's look rough-edged!"
Here's are a few selfies from my apostate Iphone of me and my brother. I have heard that other apostates love beards! and gums! I don't know why the brothers and the beautiful sisters in heels ignore me at the Kingdom Hall, but I feel absolutely ostrasized. I was thinking of meeting with the elders to re-activate my publisher status so I could date some younger sisters.
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Walk into your Kingdom Hall and tell us what you saw !
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthis was me driving into the parking lot and into the kingdom hall:.
every week the same brothers and sisters are late getting to the meeting.
elders are talking with other elders ( who always have notes and folders in their hands).
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Heay mon, Island man says, " Gratuitous, plastic displays of affection that boastfully scream: "See how loving we are? That proves we're the true religion!"
Just because active witnesses don't enlist in the armed services and actually kill people, does not prove that they "have love among themselves"= "we're the true religion". Absence of murder doesn't mean that there is love. My disfunctional family is a great example. Just saying.
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Annual meeting. Greek scholars please help!
by DATA-DOG inbelow is a statement from gb member gerrit losch.
notice what is said about the fds.
is this true?
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Followed BobCats references, Thanks. Bumping this discussion, particularly Leolaia's contributions.
Leolaia, what a wonderful mind. Thanks:)
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making connections
by losingit inone of the thing i appreciate most about this site is reading other people's experiences while in and out of the cult.
when i read other people's stories, it helps to validate my own experiences.
i rarely talked to anyone else besides my husband concerning my doubts, and so for the entire time that i was in i thought i was the only one having these negative experiences with the brothers in the kingdom hall.
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Losingit, wrote, " I suffered bouts of depression during my time in the cult, and I now understand that jwism holds the brunt of the fault there. "
I believe this to be true and couldn't agree with you more. I have experieced the cycles of depression myself. It would make an interesting study if someone was able to prove a connection between the beliefs of Jw's, their environment, the indoctrination at the meetings, guilt trips, congregational politics and etc, and physical or mental disorders.
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Today I received my first ever birthday gift!
by NVR2L8 ini received a parcel at work from my daughter and her boyfriend.
it contained a birthday card in the shape of a motorcycle leather jacket and a book on rides you can take using the back roads in my part of the world!
my eyes filled with tears as i was reading the card.
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NVR, happy birthday, please be careful riding those scenic routes in your part of the world. I totalled my bike this year and at 50, it's hard to heal up physically. Uhg
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Do You Think Anyone Looks Down On People Who Commit "Fornication"?
by minimus ini think only in strict religious circles, is it considered taboo.. does someone's "fornicating" bother you?.
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Let's take this discussion a step further, does anyone look down on someone committing adultery? What are the current standards that you see?
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making connections
by losingit inone of the thing i appreciate most about this site is reading other people's experiences while in and out of the cult.
when i read other people's stories, it helps to validate my own experiences.
i rarely talked to anyone else besides my husband concerning my doubts, and so for the entire time that i was in i thought i was the only one having these negative experiences with the brothers in the kingdom hall.
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Jen 1, welcome to the forum. I understand what you are going through as I have suffered similar health issues and symptoms, and difficult situations in the congregation. You can find support here, it does take time to heal though. I particularly can identify with your comments about elders wives. I have not figured out why JW congregations are so prone to one or two elders wives believing it is their mission in life to run the congregation.
I am seriously working on trying to cut the final emotional strings so that I can put the witness life behind me and move on, hopefully, with the previous life slowly forgotten in the rear view mirror.
Welcome again, if you wish to post an introductory post and tell us about yourself we would certainly be interested.
