Posts by JakeM2012

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Do you remember the 15 minute break at the Sun. meeting?

by 3rdgen in

a poster on another thread reminded me of when there was a 15 min.

break between the talk and the wt study on sundays.

the break was supposed to be to allow jw's time to drive their bible studys home from the talk.

JakeM2012

Yes, I do. The public talk was always in the afternoon around 3:00 because having it in the morning would be like Christendom. When congregations started having Sunday meetings in the morning, some of the other congregations thought it was very radical. We used to walk down to the corner mart and get a coke with a member of the anointed.

The Watchtower Study was considered "only" for real witnesses, not bible students. That's why it was kept separate. Yes,, some would smoke during the break. LOL

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Pioneer school in 1000 words

by oppostate in

this strange photo is from a pioneer school graduating class in russia.. they're hiding their faces because, supposedly they don't want to be identified as jw's and run the risk of persecution.. the picture is very telling.

this very well illustrates how the pioneer school aims to make everyone into faceless drones whose minds are copies of wt indoctrinated automatons and not really individuals.. another thing i noticed when looking at the photo is that some aren't following the instructions to obscure their faces--some peek their eyes above the illuminators textbook and one is quite clearly exposing his profile as if he was talking to his neighbor in mid-shutter instant.. third, it's in russia, and the jw's aren't too welcome there.

communist oligarchs were quite acquainted with indoctrination and brain-washing techniques, they didn't like competition.

JakeM2012

Oppostate, where is the photo?

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Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh

by WildeLover in

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.

i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.

it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.

JakeM2012

Sir Elder Newton, you do realize that the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society does not pay retirement to anyone?

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Where are all these New Anointed Ones Coming from?

by John Aquila in

back in the early 70s, right before 1975 we had about 7 or 8 thousand professed anointed.

cant remember the exact number.

but at every convention we were told that the end is close ---because---the number of anointed is getting smaller and smaller.

JakeM2012

Well, who wants to live under the rule of the Nazi Governing Body forever. If they get to heaven, at least they might be able to bring some order and reason to the rule over the earth.

IF, AND only IF, If you still believe all that mumbo-jumbo.

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You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!

by cha ching in

i am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.

he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu

JakeM2012

Yes, that is pitiful. So they worked him all day, and before dinner, they had brothers from the moving department come and escort him out to his car. That's pretty cold blooded.

Not that any job is permanent, But, this is a volunteer that has given over four years of his life away, and they couldn't let him have dinner or better yet, stay for breakfast and give him the whole day for traveling? And no going away party? Well if you don't celebrate birthdays, why would you have a going away party, like you would show some appreciation for someone giving four years of their lives to you for practically nothing.

Hate to say it, but it brings back bitter memories of my "Bethel" Service.

The only good thing that I see is that they didn't wait until he was 65 years old to throw him on the street.

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GB Permits Texas Two-Step on Kingdom Hall Stage, etc.

by TakeOffTheCrown in

the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.

but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.

the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.

JakeM2012

I wanted to make another comment. I remember years ago myself and some other witnesses would play music at some witness gatherings. We got so much grief that we stopped. One brother was offended by the lyrics in "Achie Breaky Heart". " I just want to kill this man" or something like that. At the time it was a very popular song.

We didn't play too loud, we played songs that everyone could sing along with, but there was always some weak conscienced brother or sister, that would get upset. We got tired of being grilled by the elders. So we just stopped playing at the witness gatherings.

But then this is posted on the WWW? Unbelievable where this religion has gone.

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GB Permits Texas Two-Step on Kingdom Hall Stage, etc.

by TakeOffTheCrown in

the governing body not writing their own articles is on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/370640004/gb-providing-food-helpers-write-articles?size=10&page=1.

but, something more sinister, more serious is taking place in the congregations.

the governing body have allowed very disturbing activities to take place in the kingdom halls and during the conventions.

JakeM2012

Why didn't they just take the delegates to Billy Bobs in Fort Worth, or the Broken Spoke in Austin. I guess the Kingdom Hall is not so sacred anymore?

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Hello Everyone

by MarieK in

i hope everyone is having a good saturday.

i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!

needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.

JakeM2012

Welcome MarieK to this site,

I remember how gut wrenching it was in composition of my first post here. It does take bravery. Bravery to accept that you have been conned or duped into believe the WTBTS lies. Bravery to accept that you hooked up with and believed the lies of the likes of "Bernie Madoff".

Again, WELCOME!

I'm glad that your husband is awake. That is a huge plus. When I first told my wife about my suspicions about the organization, I was concerned about her reaction. But we survived. it is a new journey. Sit back and enjoy it. I'm finally coming to accept the last fifty years.

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My sister is being harassed by the elders

by opusdei1972 in

sometime ago i wrote here in this forum about the case of my sister, who decided to stop attending the meetings because she realised that the watchtower society is an evil organization.

this happened more than one year ago.

i am not living in the same country of my sister, so i learn about her case when she calls me or when she write me through whatsapp.

JakeM2012

Your sister needs to file a request for an order of protection, Monday Morning With the local police! !!! Don't even bother calling WTBTS. An order of protection is better than a restraining order. If they break an "order of protection" the elders can personally can go to jail. They cannot visit her house uninvited, this is stalking. She needs to get their names, addressees and phone numbers if possible, or as much information about the elders/ stalkers for the written complaint and request for an order of protection. HINT: Google and other search engines, even Facebook, are a great providers of addresses phone numbers and birthays, and other information needed in filing out an order of protection.

If she files for a restraining order or even better an order of protection she will most likely get it, but if they deny visiting her house, she will need a photo or some proof. If she explains to a judge what they are doing, they will have to lie to get out of it. Judges today will err on the side of the accuser. Proof via Camera phones' photo is acceptable.

I can almost guarantee that if she files for an order of protection against the elders individually, she will never face the committee for the accusations of apostasy. The elders are instructed to drop the pursuit mode if inactive people even hint at legal repercussions. Hope this helps.

File the order of protection on the individuals NOT the congregation or WTBTS.

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Why Is This New Batch of Governing Body Members So Stupid?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well there are lots of reason for sure, denial, delusion, wishful thinking, ego maniac, infantile understanding of ancient writings, satanophobia, xenophobia, out of touch with reality, limited choices scrapping the bottom of the barrel,and many more.. listen to this ted talk and see if you can pick out something that helps explain why these guys are such ass holes:.

organizations are often run according to the superchicken model, where the value is placed on star employees who outperform others.

and yet, this isnt what drives the most high-achieving teams.

JakeM2012

Thanks BrokeBack WT.

So Heffernan says: Among the super chicken's group, they had all pecked each other to death and only three survived. Since we are applying this to the organization, Sound like all the congregations that I have been in.