Posts by JakeM2012

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Is Watchtower beginning to buckle

by Truthexplorer in

is wt beginning to buckle under the weight of everything that is happening?

heavy criticism from the media and the plethora of websites and youtube videos popping up; and now the obvious issues with finances clearly evident.

the pressure for change must be immense and therefore necessary!

JakeM2012

Personally, I believe WTBTS is definitely showing signs of financial stress. Their behavior is getting to be erratic, but as we have seen on this forum, predictable. Their behavior is predictable concerning their next cuts or money grabbing schemes.

Just to clarify, just because an organization is tax free, it' doesn't mean they are automatically successful. Even non-prophet organizations have to have sufficient donations to remain solvent. Incidentally, There are many "for profit" organizations that pay NO tax because they spend a lot of money on lawyers that specialize in taxation defense. (Watch the documentary, "We Are Not Broke" on Netflix".)

Calvin Coolidge said, "No enterprise can exist for itself alone. It ministers to some great need, it performs some great service, not for itself, but for others; or failing therein, it ceases to be profitable and ceases to exist".

WTBTS is, as they say about this "system", rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, just before it sinks. The elephants in the room have not and will not be addressed by the current GB or whoever is really pulling the strings. A few elephants that I see, is the "unchristian like attitudes that exists in the organization and congregations. Further, the refusal by the organization to honestly admit, "that as much as we all wanted the end to come", as time passes, there is growing evidence that the year of 1914 had no significance.

I think that I've mentioned this before, but I asked a long time Bethelite that had worked alongside the GB for years this question: Why after the 1975 debacle, didn't the WTBTS just get rid of everything with a born on date or ending date, and just concentrate on love within families, the congregations, and the worldwide "brotherhood", and leave all that end time Mumbo-Jumbo out of the equation. The Brother told me, "Well, that's what Ray Franz said to do".

JW's have a good thing going with their "Brotherhood" and being able to travel around the world with different nationalities, races, etc. and have a trust and unity. That is what the organization should build upon.

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Adjusting

by cognac in

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just feel like i could never make it on the outside world.

i was never able to adjust, except in being a mom and in business.

those are the only things that i feel strong in.

JakeM2012

Cognac, If you are a great mom and are great at business, my hat is off to you. These qualities may not be the total "package" of what you are looking for, however, they are the basic building blocks of "outside" worldly success. Many worldly people could have fallen into the successful group without having both of these qualities at the same time.

I personally feel that the indoctrination of WTBTS of constantly insisting that "I" personally (along with every other reader) was grossly deficient, prone to failure, tempted and sinful, and totally inadequate without the WTBTS's input and dependence on their constant guidance, distorts a truthful judgement of ourselves. This type of "spiritual diet or food" is intentionally done to psychologically keep followers off balance and doubting themselves so that they feel dependency on the WTBTS. It is very similar to a drug dealer.

You have not reavealed enough of why you feel inadequate "to make it in the outside world", so I won't offer correct actions, but I'm interested in your further expressions.

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Jehovah's people are the happiest people on earth!

by Coded Logic in

so this afternoon my roommate and i decided to go grab some dinner from the local chipotle and, as we live only a short distance from the franchise, we decided it was a good idea to walk.

little did i know that the j-dubs district convention here in sacramento was just getting out (the auditorium is literally smack in the middle of downtown and its attendees have to park in garages scattered a couple blocks away in every direction) so men in cheap suits and women in unflattering dress' were walking all over the place as though someone had antagonized their ungodly ant hill.

and, for sacramento, this of course is the complete opposite of the normative - that is to say, our streets are usually filled with well dressed, immaculately groomed, 'i know exactly where i'm going' government officials that monopolize the state capitol m-f. .

JakeM2012

L street has always been hard to find from K street. Geez! You know that. :)

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Ganged up via Telephone

by vinman in

i've been fading for about 9 months.

the elders know exactly why.

i received a phone call a couple of days ago.

JakeM2012

I'm proud of you! Excellent Points.

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Brother who works on JW Broadcasting gave a 20 minute talk, said something big is coming next month.

by wifibandit in

via /r/exjw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.

JakeM2012

This is all that I have ever seen of "the hand of Jehovah" in Watchtower Land

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10 reasons you should never have a religion

by darth frosty in

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friends

10 reasons you should never have a religion.

by steven bancarzjanuary 4, 2015self discovery, spirituality.

written by steve pavlina on his site www.stevepavlina.com |.

JakeM2012

Steve Pavlina has very good points.

So does this web site: http://www.rantlifestyle.com/2014/08/13/21-reasons-why-religion-is-wrong/

As far as Steve Pavlina, I would enjoy meeting him, he has quite a story. He boasts of $40 K a month passive income from his internet sites advertisements.

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Don't believe what you read in the newspapers

by 1Averagejoe in

foolish is the man who neverreads a newspaper; even morefoolish is the man who believeswhat he reads just becauseit is in the newspaper .august von schlozer,german historianand publicist (1735-1809).

i came across this articke in the october 15th wt.

page 30.

JakeM2012

Afrikanman, I now have a new word to use and no one will know that I'm cussing, Thanks!

KAK

South Africanism for Shit Pronounced: KUK

"Excuse me while I go take a kak".
"You speak more kak than George Bush."
"Kak in your eye poes!"

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Don't believe what you read in the newspapers

by 1Averagejoe in

foolish is the man who neverreads a newspaper; even morefoolish is the man who believeswhat he reads just becauseit is in the newspaper .august von schlozer,german historianand publicist (1735-1809).

i came across this articke in the october 15th wt.

page 30.

JakeM2012

Even if a report is true, it does not necessarily mean that it should be spread.There maybe times when it would be neither right nor loving to distribute true accounts to others. (Matt.7:12) For example, it is neither loving nor up-building to spread gossip, even though the information may be true. (2 Thess. 3:11; 1 Tim. 5:13)

Classic Jehovah's Witnesses Mentality for damage control. Blame the messenger! for accurate truthful information, you are a "busy body". LOL

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Aussie Article: The Saturday Paper - Royal commission examines Jehovah Witnesses cover-up

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2015/08/01/royal-commission-examines-jehovah-witnesses-cover/14383512002194 .

royal commission examines jehovah witnesses cover-up.

newsaug 1, 2015. martin mckenzie-murray the jehovahs witnesses fiercely literal reading of the bible has distanced them from the law and politics, but the royal commission into child sexual abuse is ending that..

JakeM2012

Applause.......MARTIN MCKENZIE-MURRAY, Applause........Applause........Applause.

Just Wow!!!! What a concise pointed and revealing article into Jehovah's Witnesses mentally deficient ways . Mr. Mckenzie-Murray had me running to the dictionary for several definitions of words, mostly because of his wonderful Britishness. But his use of "Gormless",....Wonderful. Solipsistic, fealty, and mendacious were other great words used.

men·da·cious

menˈdāSHəs/

adjective

not telling the truth; lying.
"mendacious propaganda"
synonyms: lying, untruthful, dishonest, deceitful, false, dissembling, insincere,disingenuous, hypocritical, fraudulent, double-dealing, two-faced, Janus-faced, two-timing, duplicitous, perjured; More

If I believed in Holy Spirit any more, Holy Spirit must have used him to expose these errors in the WatchTower Bible and Tract Society's policies. Oh, no, excuse me, "
"But it was the worldly people that came to BCG’s aid: “I was initially scared of the police because I had grown up being taught that everyone outside of the Jehovah’s Witness Church was to be feared."
"But we have seen them. Their piety is now an awful joke; their legacies ash. At least the victims’ stories are being contemplated by a commission showing a grace their religious families never did. The estrangement of the Jehovah’s Witnesses has encouraged abuse and compounded trauma. Elders encourage their flock to shun “worldly people” because the secular are agents of the Beast. We have seen similar situations emerge in these commissions – cultures turned mouldy by self-perpetuating secrecy."

THANK YOU BARBARA!

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Do you remember the 15 minute break at the Sun. meeting?

by 3rdgen in

a poster on another thread reminded me of when there was a 15 min.

break between the talk and the wt study on sundays.

the break was supposed to be to allow jw's time to drive their bible studys home from the talk.

JakeM2012

Yes, I do. The public talk was always in the afternoon around 3:00 because having it in the morning would be like Christendom. When congregations started having Sunday meetings in the morning, some of the other congregations thought it was very radical. We used to walk down to the corner mart and get a coke with a member of the anointed.

The Watchtower Study was considered "only" for real witnesses, not bible students. That's why it was kept separate. Yes,, some would smoke during the break. LOL