JakeM2012

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  Do you think the Watchtower corporation can be "helped" to come clean?

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems all humans and groups suffer from the universal problem of being able to see what is wrong with others, but not themselves.. so how to "help"?.

  maybe some paraphrasing of what the watchtower has written about others, which equally applies to them?

  *** w09 6/1 p. 9 they loved the word of god ***[ray franz' book "in search of christian freedom"] was not welcomed by the [watchtower corporation].

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  I can truthfully say that I have NOT seen a jackass or donkey turned into a great horse. WTBTS will not tolerate reformation. Keep dreaming.
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  NEW UK BETHEL - START SAVING

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a letter was read tonight at the meeting with this information.. apparently, three years ago the gb authorised the uk bethel to consolidate all the uk resources.

  so far over 300 sites have been looked at but more information will be forthcoming.. in the meantime we can work to this end by saving so that we can contribute to the new facility.. also skilled and unskilled trades people can register for volunteer work, collect an application form from the secretary.. to me it seems like they are going to move out of london (mill hill, bittacy hill etc), get a cheaper area, pay for the new facility with donations and free labour.

  they will then sell all the high value property and probably send the money to the us.

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  Saving???? Just bend over, thank you very much!
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  The ones who participate in CONvention...is it all a load of hypocrisy?

  by MissConfused in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am talking about the ones who get special mentions or interviews or part in assemblies and conventions, they are usually stars of the congregation at least as acknowledged by boe.

  when i had interacted personally with these people, i did not find them special in any way.

  they neither reflected any true love for j, but were quite the very opposite and ambitious to be the best in "the organization", with very little humility.

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  Julia, I hope that you got some recognition for your years of service, regardless of whom it is from.

  My mom was interviewed a few years back; she was baptised at 6 at the convention in1941 where Rutherford "gave" the Childrens book out. She EARNED her recognition and the brief applause, and I'm sure you did also.
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  I wonder if my mom will ever go back to the meetings ?

  by scary21 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, my 89 year old jw mom has been in her new apartment now for over 4 months.

  my sister and i moved her back to mi.

  from fl.. we were forced to by the jw's who wanted to commit her.

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  I wouldn't expect any call from your mom's congregation. They were done with her.

  Not that you or anyone else is greedy but I would review you mothers Last Will and Testament and other documents. I have seen slick brothers move in for the elderly family members signature so they could act as executors then dump the total responsibility of assisting an elderly individual on the unexpecting distanced sons, daughters, etc. When I was growing up one elder specifically made this his profession.
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  New York Tourist Crap Highlights The Watchtower buildings in Brooklyn

  by steve2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well i'm a day shy of having spent one week in new york - my first time.

  what a dazzlingly vibrant and noisy city - one that never sleeps.

  new yorkers rightly proclaim this metropolis as one of a kind.

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  Interesting with all this "free publicity", the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is cutting tale and moving to the isolated country. The Islamic Cultural Center has recently built, close to the world trade center ground zero. They didn't build out in the country where they could hide in the woods like Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, as if they were ashamed of something. Interesting. I guess if you have been the fabricator of the 130 year snipe hunt and people are getting wise to your crap, then you would move and hide also.

  I thought Watchtower had taken their signage down?
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  Truth Be Told Documentary showing in San Francisco

  by SeekingTheRealTruth in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  this is from a member of another ex-jw group.

  if there is anybody living in the bay area..please try and attend!!

  id like to announce to you that the movie, truth be told a documentary about growing as a jehovahs witness will be showing in san francisco.

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  "I have just sent an email to the Australian SBS network and asked them to contact the site, www.smithcraft.com and run this documentary as it may give courage for those whose kids have been abused to contact the Royal Commission on Child abuse here."

  Is there anyway to get this information into school councelors hands so that they know what the children are up against?
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  Hi all

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  firstly, love and greetings to all - i've been lurking here and elsewhere for a long time and have benefitted more than i can say.

  i'm still in - i have a genuine fear that coming out would kill my mother - but i've recently taken the first step away.

  i told a non-jw friend that i knew it was all a load of nonsense and i didn't believe any of it.

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  Cool, welcome dude or saltheart doodete
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  When Jehovah's Witnesses changed from Society to Religion and why

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  judge j.f.

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  JakeM2012

  Thanks Terry,

  Wouldn't it be nice to go back in time and combat the "religious tax exemption" given to the WTBTS?
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  Asking for money...AGAIN

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i live in the uk ,a letter was read as local announcements on thursday about the relocation of london bethel and the need to donate (yes they are blatantly asking the flock )..more money .considering the fact the london bethel is located in one of the most expensive areas of london ,the sale of of these buildings will bring in hundrends of millions of pounds in revenue.there is no need asking for more money .as one poster posted here 11 years ago on the same project that nows seems to be going ahead the conservative estimates are that they will get approx 193.5m for the site (inc bittacy hill) and the new greenfield site (whichever) wil cost less that 35m.

  whip up the building committes and up it goes foc (materials are estimated @ 9.23m).that was an estimate 11 years ago..so my question is did you had this letter read in your local announcements recently?

  i see a pattern emerging also the sale and relocation of bethel houses build in prime land that are worth alot of money to less expensive areas and the generation of million of pounds in income .so not only makinf money off local refurfrfbrisment projects but milking it off bethel homes sale.

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  Yes, all the branches we helped build in central and south america that were to support the preaching and "educational" work thru armageddon have been sold in the last few years because of simplification. Uhmmmm.

  Perhaps, Jw's would be financially better off if they figured out how to re-harness the construction talents they have into money making profits. Oh, excuse me, that what the rest of the world does in everyone being paid for their work and skills as needed. Forget it. Maybe they just need to get a real job. ukooo...
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  Why do the GB need a new Bethel compound if the end is so close? Here is the "official" answer

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as most of us know, the society is spending 10's of millions of dollars on a giant, state of the art, secluded bunker country club headquarters in very remote, isolated warwick ny.. the question that "some" have is, why?

  if armageddon is coming "very soon", why go to all that time & effort & expense?

  why have thousands of jws dedicating their time to this massive effort instead of the "lifesaving ministry"?.

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  Smiddy says, " Going back more than twenty years ago they have said , it ( new buildings /expansions etc. ) will be used in the new system of things to provide spiritual nourishment for the survivors of armageddon and the resurrected ones."

  They made that comment about all the branches in central america when we were building them, "to encourage us". Now, they have sold most of them. ummmm.