Posts by enoughisenough

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How Many Of You Knew Something Was Really Wrong Growing Up JW? What was Your First Clue?

by Sea Breeze in

this is directed to born-ins.

around age 10 or 12 is when it first hit me.

i started asking questions about how the world worked and i really wanted an honest opinion from my parents.

enoughisenough

truth_b_known...thanks for sharing, but that is a horror story...

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How Many Of You Knew Something Was Really Wrong Growing Up JW? What was Your First Clue?

by Sea Breeze in

this is directed to born-ins.

around age 10 or 12 is when it first hit me.

i started asking questions about how the world worked and i really wanted an honest opinion from my parents.

truth_be_known " In the early 2000's I learned that there are Circuit and District Overseers who seek out those who profess to be of the Annointed to persecute them with the goal of disfellowshipping them"

can you tell more on this subject?

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Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

by Mikejw in

here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

enoughisenough

do some of you HONESTLY believe the c-19 jabs are safe and effective? Beings they neither prevent the illness nor stop it's spread, do you consider it a vax? It has not provided immunity. Many who took the vx ended up in the hopital with c-19 ( a local person in the congregation )...a vx won't induce the disease as stated in the definition...not the case with these jabs. Some not only got c-19 right after taking the jabs, some died! ( my sister included) some got sick and haven't been well since ( my brother-in-law ) Some who had cancer got new cancers ( a woman I grew up with ) some had cancer in remission return ( a local person in the congregation.) I don't have a wide circle, so to speak, but I do have first hand knowledge...so I believe it when I see horrific death and injury numbers from around the world produced by this safe and effective jab. This isn't tin hat conspiracy...so continue to be insulting if you must.

difinition:...

noun

a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
"every year the flu vaccine is modified to deal with new strains of the virus

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refusing to go in service with someone

by enoughisenough in

did you ever refuse to go in service with someone?

i did.... i went to the kh to meet for service and 3 brothers were there.

i told the brother taking the lead, that when he made up the car groups to take note i had a plan of my own -the 3 brothers could go together and i would do my own thing.

enoughisenough

there was a brother where I used to be who was bipolar--he would do and say some off the wall things--people didn't want to work with him. I never had the opportunity. He was eventually df. It is a shame people for ridiculed for mental health issues that they can't help. A sister came to his defense, and she ended up being brought before a judicial meeting and others were invited in to speak against her ( anything small thing they could think of to shed a bad light on this pioneer sister ) She was literally roasted at the invite of the elders. She was eventually df.

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Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one

by Mikejw in

here in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.

it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .

enoughisenough

Jan, "You haven't answered my question about all of the world's governments being in cahoots over this vaccine scandal. Is that really happening?" You didn't address that question to me, but if you would do deep enough reseach on the subject, you would find out---as we used to say in the hide and seek game, we played as kids, " You are getting warmer."

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Is This New?

by Lost in the fog in

it is a very long time since i was an elder and the elders textbooks have changed multiple times since then.

going back to when i was an elder, to the best of my knowledge the only way a spouse could divorce from his/her partner was porneia, if that person had sexual relations with a man, woman, child, or beast.

but it had to be proven and that's the dubious 2 witness rule.. in fact, if it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!

enoughisenough

It was just myself and an employee of the opposite sex that worked together in a small business I operated from and extension of my home. Employee would hide the car so people from the hall wouldn't know if they were still employed there. If the car was in the drive, such comments were made by an elder in the hearing of one known for gossip: "....is there dusting.....'s britches -spreading that rumor. We went out to lunch one day ( which we did every so often ) and happened into a restuarant where the CO and a group were also having lunch. I got called out for that-how bad that looked and what a bad witness! A group of sisters went and told the brothers I was shacking up in a motel with this employee 1.5 hours away. ( all lies ) and I got called out for that. Those sisters would spy on my property to determine if I was home or not-I hid my car so as to fool them--they wanted fuel for their lies, I would help them out.

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Tried to warn another mum

by DarleneGatus in

the thing that broke me was that i tried to warn another mum in the congregation about a brother who was inappropriate with my son, which upset me, and so i called her to talk about it since we both knew him and i had also seen him pin her daughter down on the sofa and slap the girl's bottom.

i called it inappropriate, but i never accused him of anything beyond that.. unfortunately, word got back to him and i had to go in front of 3 elders, including the brother who i felt had been inappropriate.

because they came down on me for trying to stop the behavior, and not on him for being the cause of upset, i felt very hurt and started questioning more things.

enoughisenough

a member of my family moved her children out of a congregation because someone was getting too familiar with them...no one believed the kids.

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How Many Of You Knew Something Was Really Wrong Growing Up JW? What was Your First Clue?

by Sea Breeze in

this is directed to born-ins.

around age 10 or 12 is when it first hit me.

i started asking questions about how the world worked and i really wanted an honest opinion from my parents.

enoughisenough

Biahi, When I get my head into to it, I think I have 2 books to write. Your story about being left out in the D2D while others went to break--just awful! What did your parents think. If you had been my child, I would never have let that slide. I hate injustice. There was a family who had 2 kids and they would go to break...they would maybe even buy a cup of coffee for someone else in the group and absolutely nothing for the kids... I don't treat my dogs like that!

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Is This New?

by Lost in the fog in

it is a very long time since i was an elder and the elders textbooks have changed multiple times since then.

going back to when i was an elder, to the best of my knowledge the only way a spouse could divorce from his/her partner was porneia, if that person had sexual relations with a man, woman, child, or beast.

but it had to be proven and that's the dubious 2 witness rule.. in fact, if it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!

enoughisenough

here is a story: sister gets STD from Elder husband. Elder body says he did nothing wrong-said she likely got it from a toilet seat or drying with a dirty towel. Husband was told he had done no wrong and patted on the back...the elders tried to make a case that the sister wanted another man and that is why she brought forth the charges. Husband came to her defense. The elders refused to acknowlege she had scriptual grounds for divorce. Then the elders set up people to try to entrap her into saying something against them ( elder body ) so they could take her out!

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refusing to go in service with someone

by enoughisenough in

did you ever refuse to go in service with someone?

i did.... i went to the kh to meet for service and 3 brothers were there.

i told the brother taking the lead, that when he made up the car groups to take note i had a plan of my own -the 3 brothers could go together and i would do my own thing.

enoughisenough

Did you ever refuse to go in service with someone? I did...

I went to the KH to meet for service and 3 brothers were there. I told the brother taking the lead, that when he made up the car groups to take note I had a plan of my own -the 3 brothers could go together and I would do my own thing. I told him plainly I wasn't going in service with a certain brother in the group. Needless to say the COEB called me later to put me in my place. Here is what I told him: The Bible says a man who doesn't take care of his own household is worse than an unbeliever.

The brother I wouldn't go in service with was an Elder/pioneer. His wife of over 30 years had alzheimers. He and the wife got into an upset because he was jealous of her grown children and threatened to kill them if they came around. (I don't know all the details) but the ending was he took her and a few of her clothes to her son's home ( while he was at work ) Along the way, he threw away his wedding ring. So the women ( I think 80year+- ) was found wondering around in her son's yard when he got home. She had nothing but a few clothes that the elder/pioneer husband had thrown out in the yard when he ditched her. He put an ad in the paper that he would not be responsible for her. She got a wee SS check, but it went to his bank account. I helped the Son pool some money so as to open her a bank account so she could get her SS check.

After all of this, the brother was giving parts on the platform and up to the time he died of a heart attack, the congregation thought well of him. A sister later told me that the woman's children had stolen their mother away from the husband... I knew better... And if that wasn't ugly enough, the brother had left the home to his son (an elder) who wouldn't let ( what would be his step mother who raised him) have any of her own belongings out of the home after the brother died... The brother had a brother in law who was a circuit overseer. They were also at the house when the older sister with alzheimers along with her daughter came to get some of the old sister's belongings. I was glad she couldn't remember the awful way these wonderful JWs elders treated her. (there are some other bad things in this story, but I will spare you. )