Sea Breeze...thanks for pointing out a word that never registered in my mind. A quick research does reveal, as per usual, different versions of Bible translate it differently. I will never understand the "tripartite", because there is no way anyone could ever convince me that Jesus is part of a trinity. The only mystery I see with the trinity ( which I have heard said is a mystery ) is that anyone believes it to start with.
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The position of Christ in the Godhead
by JW Answers inwhat is your views on christ?.
do you hold to the view that christ and the father are the same person?
do you hold to the view that jesus is a lesser god than the father?.
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The position of Christ in the Godhead
by JW Answers inwhat is your views on christ?.
do you hold to the view that christ and the father are the same person?
do you hold to the view that jesus is a lesser god than the father?.
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enoughisenough
excuse me, but I don't see in the Bible Jesus position in the godhead...( don't see the word godhead!)
so I will just choose to believe what the Bible really says as to his position, which you can choose to believe or not.
Ps 110:1 Jehovah declared to my Lord;" Sit at my Right Hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet. ( quoted at Acts 2:34 Matt22:44 Heb 1:14 )
Acts 2:33 Therefore, because he was exalted to the Right Hand of God and received the pomished holy spirit from the Father, he has pured out what you see and hear.
Acts 5:31 God exalted this one as Chief Agent and Savior to his Right Hand, to give repentace to Israel and forgiveness of sins.
Notes: Ps 110:1 doesn't say Jesus will place his enemies at his feet-which he would have if he were GOD
Act 2:33 he received holy spirit from the Father...If he were God, why would he give it to himself?
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The position of Christ in the Godhead
by JW Answers inwhat is your views on christ?.
do you hold to the view that christ and the father are the same person?
do you hold to the view that jesus is a lesser god than the father?.
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enoughisenough
I am posting these thoughts here for those of you who think Jesus is God
John 10:30 " I and the Father are ONE."
John 17:21 so that they may all be ONE , just as you Father, are in UNION with me and I am in UNION with you, that they also may be in UNION with us, so the the world may believe that you sent me.....23 I in UNION with them and you in UNION with me.....
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female, for YOU are all ONE in UNION with Christ Jesus.
The point of bringing out these scriptures is if you believe that Jesus is God Almighty because he says they are ONE or that he says he is in UNION with God, then by extention of that reasoning, all who have faith in Jesus would be GOD.
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“The United Socialist States of America?”
by Fisherman inwhen i was growing up, some people were on welfare but the vast majority were working people that paid their own rent, doctor’s bills, medicine, food, etc.
—and saved money.
so, a working person did not need financial help from the government if they didn’t have vices.
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enoughisenough
Fisherman, your post reminded me of this short video I watched...https://www.bitchute.com/video/ah2LDf1CQVIk/ The NEW WORLD ORDER AGENDA phrase chart
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UN and Governing Body and an accounting
by AnnaNana injoseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".
joseph and mary were not perfect.
the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.
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enoughisenough
AnnaNana, It seems to me you have faith and trust in JWorg....they bring repoach upon Jehovah to put it mildly. When the publish lies in his name...LIES because Truth stands up and doesn't keep changing. Satan is the father of the lie. Do they teach some truths? sure, as do other religions...doesn't mean Jehovah claims them for his organization. Christendom was in other countries promoting the Bible and Christ and Almighy God long before the WTBTS ever came along. So one could argue Chrstendom is God's organization. The JW claim they are God's organization because Jesus chose them as the faithful steward in 1919...they were preaching all manner of lies , notably that miiions then living wouldn't die, pyramidology, and lots of other nonsense if you do the research. So for JWorg to be Jehovah's organization, he would have had to approve all the lies and false prophecy during that time frame if one is willing to believe JW WTBTS. You can't have it both ways. Either it is JWorg and the truth or it isn't. JWorg doesn't allow you to have it both ways...You HAVE to trust that the GB are the slave and do as you are told.
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My mom died.
by noni1974 init's been years since i posted here.
my jw mother died july 5th.
it was quite honestly not that emotional for me.
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enoughisenough
Beings you posted here that your mum died, I think it has affected you more than you realize. Condolences.
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UN and Governing Body and an accounting
by AnnaNana injoseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".
joseph and mary were not perfect.
the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.
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AnnaNana, I am so confused by the things you are writing. You seem to be defending an organization that is corrupt! It publishes Lies and makes claims either Jehovah or Jesus directed the publishing of those lies. If you are preaching house to house, are you directing people to JWorg? Where are you directing people? Are you telling them you are a JW and therefore associate yourself with the org?
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The blood of the covenant and forgivness of sins
by enoughisenough ini am pasting in a copy of an email i hope my friend will read...i watched a video by bridget from az and i had thoughs i had never even considered before.
this is interesting : matt 26:28 for this means my 'blood of the covenant,' which is to be poured out in behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins.according to wt, the christian greek scriptures were ( see copy ) wt 74 6/15 serve with eternity in view : also, it is to the spirit-anointed christians who will rule in that kingdom that most of the christian greek scriptures is directed, including the promises of everlasting life ( pasted from wt 74 6/15).
so matt 26:28 is at the lord's evening meal where the new covenant is being initiated.
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waton- served instead of partaking....thanks for the catch...I didn't see the little "edit" on the post to change the wording.
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UN and Governing Body and an accounting
by AnnaNana injoseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".
joseph and mary were not perfect.
the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.
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enoughisenough
AnnaNana-"if you see mistakes and misunderstandings in the modern day organization of Jehovah's Witnesses, you are blessed with insight and comprehension. "
If one sees 'mistakes and misunderstandings', they have to put up and shut up or they will be kicked out, so if you try to "comfort" someone with what the Bible says verses WT, you are speaking against god's organization. Just becaus men create something and put God's name on it doesn't mean it is God's organization ( there was a festival to Jehovah because the golden calf was their god that led them out of Eqypt.
Over the years, the WT has published various articles on the pagan origins of many traditions and therefore advice not to practice them because of where their origins were rooted. If one used that same standard where the WT is concerned, they would run as pyramidology played a major part in the teachings at the origin ( pretty pagan if you ask me.)
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Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?
by Roger Kirkpatrick inthesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?
happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.
truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.
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parallel account in LUke 12:42-48 shows different slave descriptions: 42....faithful steward.....45 that slave...beat the male and female servants.....47 ...that slave who understood the will of his master, but did not...do what was asked...48 but the one who did not understand....( I see 4 slave descriptions )
When JW speak of the faithful and discreet slave, they just cherry pick what they want from Matt 24:45
