Vanderhoven7..."but they are not true JWs are they? What do you say to that? I say they are True JWs
I haven't seen any "fine" JW murderers to my knowledge, but I have seen the crazies,perverts, etc. that are not on JW, but self righteous at that!
i'm a believer.
believe in blessed or cursed.
what is happening to watchtower is my question.
Vanderhoven7..."but they are not true JWs are they? What do you say to that? I say they are True JWs
I haven't seen any "fine" JW murderers to my knowledge, but I have seen the crazies,perverts, etc. that are not on JW, but self righteous at that!
it it not easy for me but i would like to share with you my story and my take on what happend and is happening in jw.
for some my view can be unacceptable for others can be useful.
in fact it can be answer to the question: why am i still even bother what's is going on in this obviously corrupt organization?
just curious at to whether you are still consider yourself a member of the org..."waiting for God's judgement on his people"....
as a jw, did you ever know of totally unchristian behavior ( boners) by some "fine" witnesses?
i know of more than my fair share and will reveal some.
an elder/pioneer kicked his elderly wife who had alzheimer's out.
LongHairGal, the sister who married the guy who changed his mind went from place to place with her suitcase-ended up camping in a barn( cold Spring in Maine ) when the apartment was made unlivable and suffered PTDS having panic attacks while either shopping for or putting away groceries for years afterward. She had found a tea bag when taking her things from the apartment ,went to her husband's shop next door, and asked for sugar for the tea and was told there wasn't any.
The elders in the congregation acted like the sister deserved to be treated so badly. The sister had complained to the elders about all of it and showed them love letters her husband's gay Bible study had written to her husband. There were no repercussions to the husband-that may be due in part because the gay Bible study threatened some sort of law suit. ( some years later, the "brother" was approved as an aux pioneer, and the sister learned of it and wrote letters to the WT and so the elder body got told they couldn't approve him because he wasn't taking care of his wife. )
https://wgntv.com/evanston/shots-fired-by-66-year-old-man-in-alleged-financial-deal-gone-wrong-evanston-police-say/.
JW are in the news! and not in a good way...JW public information desk may have to start spinning positive propaganda to combate this stuff.
more examples of fine Christian behavior among the JW
as a jw, did you ever know of totally unchristian behavior ( boners) by some "fine" witnesses?
i know of more than my fair share and will reveal some.
an elder/pioneer kicked his elderly wife who had alzheimer's out.
I thought to add more to the story of the elder/pioneer who dumped the Alzheimer wife. He died in good standing with the congregation. The elder's meeting resulted in him making an effort to "court" the woman. ( in the meantime he had picked out his next wife-even inviting her on a date out of town.) When he died, he left the home to one of his sons. An Elder and a man who had sold out to go and do branch construction in other countries. When the elder/pioneer died, the woman who had Alzheimer's and her daughter went to the property to retrieve some of the woman's belongings. The son/elder and also a brother-in-law/circuit overseer wouldn't let the woman have her things. ( at one point the Elder/pioneer had been in the hospital and told a local elder to have the woman get her stuff from the home because she wasn't allowed back in-and the toothless lions saw nothing wrong with this. )
as a jw, did you ever know of totally unchristian behavior ( boners) by some "fine" witnesses?
i know of more than my fair share and will reveal some.
an elder/pioneer kicked his elderly wife who had alzheimer's out.
skin--I would change the word if I knew how to edit it for the sake of other parts of the world. Anyway the context makes clear the meaning.
as a jw, did you ever know of totally unchristian behavior ( boners) by some "fine" witnesses?
i know of more than my fair share and will reveal some.
an elder/pioneer kicked his elderly wife who had alzheimer's out.
As a JW, did you ever know of totally unchristian behavior ( boners) by some "fine" witnesses? I know of more than my fair share and will reveal some. An elder/pioneer kicked his elderly wife who had Alzheimer's out. He took her to a town where her son who was at work lived and dumped her in his yard. He found her wondering around in the yard-lost and perplexed. The elder/pioneer remained in good standing giving parts and prayers even though the other elders knew about it. After it was noted, nothing was being done about the heinous way the man treated his wife, her children did get a meeting with the elders, but the local congregation always thought the man upstanding. Then there was a case where a "brother" marries a "sister" and decides he made a mistake. He takes everything except her clothing ( including groceries ) from the apartment and either hides them in storage or sells in a yard sell. He turns off the heat in the apartment and she had to leave the apt. After which, he changed the locks and eventually moved back in. His status in the congregation never changed. He never gave a dime of support to the wife, but was known to take groups of "friends" out to lunch after meetings. He even gave a car to a pioneer sister who needed one. He would sit with his gay Bible study at the Hall. Years later the "brother" dies. He had never divorced the sister but kept in contact with her, even planning to "fix" the marriage as best he could. His own Family of JW sisters, kept all of value of his belongings even though the "brother" wanted his wife to have some of it. They wrote up a will and had him sign it while in hospital a day or two before he died, leaving nothing to the wife-which surprisingly he claimed to love. The same fine witness family also wrote up and filed a fraudulent probate. I came to know of this because the wife bought the records from the courthouse of the probate and copy of the will which was falsely executed. These Fine JW remained in good standing even though the elders of their congregations were made aware of the fraud and thief. One more: there was the case of where local brothers had it in for a member of the congregation and they got an elder from another congregation to communicate with the member they were trying to get rid of. He was to ask questions to get the member to speak against them ( elder body ) so they could weaponize the conversation against the member. This tactic actually happened to more than just one member in that congregation. ( how's this for "love among yourselves")
not much but the zombies usually where better clothes.
zombies use more of thier brain.. those were the ones i could think anything else?.
zombies aren't indoctrinated by the GB
hey.
does anyone else dread attending (in person or on zoom) the memorial months in advance?.
literally as soon as new year hits, i feel sick and super anxious, and i've realised it's because of the memorial, which i only attend because of family, who kinda tell me the reason they have bad health is cuz i left the jw sevel years ago..
Beth Sarim "nobody has ever become a JW or adopted their beliers by reading a Bible" ....so true...it is studying their publications and meetings of group think. That is why the filters need removed...For ex...the WT filter says that the new covenant is for the 144000, so we don't even see what Matt 26:28 says, that it is for the forgiveness of sins for the MANY. I neve got the sense of that scripture until within the past year...It's like I never ever read it.
cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.
i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.
the whole thing is circular in a sense...to me, nothing really happens without a design to start with. I can throw all the findings ( which themselves have been designed ) onto a worktable, and I could mix them up every day for years and they would never evolve into what I hope to manufacture from the findings. I have designed what I want and I have to put it together from the findings others designed and manufactured. Have any of you experienced otherwise? I have to go along with the scripture Roman 1: 20 For his invisible qualities ae clearly seen from the world's creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable. ( it then gets circular because people say, "where did God come from?" I have no answer, but the fact that all else and we are here, then so must the creator be...IMHO