sloppyoe2--I agree about some retirees liking the service...it gets them out of the house and somethiing to do and at the same time get pats on the back from the r and f.
enoughisenough
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Thought on “0 hours” reporting
by FFGhost inso everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
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found a tract at my door/with a catch!
by enoughisenough ini found a tract at my door.
it was from a local baptist church!
( actually,i think someone wanted to give me a donation for the left over yardsale items i gave away.
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enoughisenough
now that I think about it, another person gave me a tract...it had a $ in it.
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found a tract at my door/with a catch!
by enoughisenough ini found a tract at my door.
it was from a local baptist church!
( actually,i think someone wanted to give me a donation for the left over yardsale items i gave away.
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enoughisenough
I found a tract at my door. It had $10 with it! It was from a local Baptist church! ( actually,I think someone wanted to give me a donation for the left over yardsale items I gave away. ) Anyway, it was a kind thing and I appreciate it. The typical tract that JWs can't accept from people of other religions even though there was absolutely nothing unscritptual about it. I never did think it right that JW expected others to read their tracts, but wouldn't accept other religions tracts. ( I took their tracts-thought it rude not to. )
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2023-10-17 and 2023-10-20 Letters!
by Atlantis in2023-10-17-legal seminar.
page 1. https://imgbox.com/cm4qip9v .
page 2. https://imgbox.com/rvnapwrq .
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enoughisenough
they want people with real estate experience...yeah, go help them extort more congregations...they must be planning on selling off a lot of halls. I did like the point someone made about needing help dealing with estates willed to them. ( let me say how disgusting I have come to find the org.)
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G.B. of JW's update of a scripture.
by BoogerMan in(acts 20:33, 34) we have desired every man’s silver or gold or clothing.
you yourselves know that these hands have never provided for our own needs and the needs of those with us.
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enoughisenough
Maybe not literallly by rewriting, but in practise, so I don't know why someone gave it a thumbs down. Thumbs up!!
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Jehovah's Witness' bid to be excluded from abuse inquiry dismissed
by Tahoe inlink to article.
a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church to get out of being part of the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the high court in wellington.. after nearly three years of behind-the-scenes legal wrangling to avoid scrutiny from the inquiry, the church applied for a judicial review in june.. at a hearing, held earlier this month it argued it was beyond the inquiry's scope because it did not operate institutions that cared for children or vulnerable people and the inquiry had uncovered no evidence of abuse in that context.. lawyers representing the inquiry argued that jehovah's witness elders - equivalent to ministers or pastors - exercised a level of control over the congregation that allowed them access to children.. the inquiry informed abuse survivors who gave evidence to the inquiry in relation to the jehovah's witnesses of the news this afternoon.. "we have received advice from the high court that none of the causes of action brought by the jehovah's witnesses has succeeded and the application for judicial review has been dismissed.
the judge's reasons are not yet available, but are expected in the near future," the email to survivors, seen by rnz, said.. the church was the only faith-based institution in the country to legally challenge its involvement in the inquiry, although it had attempted to challenge its status in other countries where similar inquiries have also been carried out.. the inquiry said, in a statement, that the dismissal "means the royal commission can continue to investigate the jehovah's witnesses, and all other faiths, in accordance with the pastoral care approach we have been applying since 2019".. "reasons for the high court's judgment are not yet available but are expected in the near future.
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enoughisenough
Yeah!
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My conclusion on the matter
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inafter being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.
i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.
but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.
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ExBethelitenowPIMA...I didn't read all the comments, but I noted you made excuse for JW ( being they claim not to be inspired or infallable.) They are not excused where I am concerned ...I heard that years ago...it isn't NEW! They still claim to be the channel God is using and they you have to obey them because God and Jesus trust them and it is likened to listening to the voice of JESUS ( INEXCUSABLE!) You wrote, "we think....." not being dogmatic...oh yeah, but what if you speak against what they write ...see how dogmatic it really is. On another note: don't loose hope! Just be glad you discovered the falseness! Other religions are teaching falsely as well- read the Bible and let it speak to you...Jesus said people would worship in spirit and in truth...not in any organization.
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2023-10-13-Announcement (Reporting Field Service)
by Atlantis in2023-10-13-announcements (reporting field service).
page 1. https://imgbox.com/96lgsfw4 .
page 2. https://imgbox.com/zynoa02m .
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enoughisenough
if there are scriptual reasons for not reporting the time, wouldn't logic tell you that there never was scriptual reasons for counting time...now they want it both ways...what is the scriptural reasons for pioneers to count time, but scriptual reasons for the rest not to count time. Does the rank and file and company men ever get their heads out of the sand even long enough to take a breath?
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If you were to design a new religion?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inwhat the jw sect has become and is slowly becoming is far more near what i thought could be a good religion based on the bible.. no more counting hours and no more blindly following direction now they admit they are not inspired.. i would like to design a new sect inside the jws.
it has to be kept secret because the elders would not like it.. this new sect involves giving a tick every month or so saying you are still kindof active talking about the bible.. going to meetings occasionally and attending on zoom sometimes.
very rarely go to ministry groups but don’t ever do first call, just say you are doing street work and have a nice walk somewhere maybe the shops or the park.
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enoughisenough
If I were designing a religion, there would be no speculations or conjectures. The rules would be set in stone and truth and easily understood by all, ( that is impossibe for us today, as "truth" is open to conjectures and speculations as to the meaning of so many variables- give me simple!!
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Six minute video of WTBT$ begging for money, now on JWBorg website
by EasyPrompt insix minute video of wtbt$ begging for money, now on jwborg website.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/accomplishministry/pub-mwbv_202311_1_video.
"thank you for 'setting something aside'" robert butler.
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enoughisenough
Beth Sarim...good point about tithing...with less people going d-d and collecting donations,and their comparison of counting time to tithing, I think the tithing dimmer switch is going to be turned up. When I was in and picking up literature to place, I always paid for the literature and turned in any donation...now they are barely printing anything, so less tangible to pay for ( after all, that is how they build their empire. )