if you are married and your mate gets df, the r/f treat you strange and shy away from you...what do you expect if you knowingly marry a df person...I think they would df you...( you could play dumb, like you thought you were marrying a worldly person.
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Is a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses marries a disfellowshipped person, what is the outcome?
by EdenOne inhello all.. i need a quick answer, and also a solid reference in the literature, please.. if a jw marries an unbeliever, there is reproof, it's frowned upon, it's disloyal, there will be loss of privileges, etc, but there's no other more serious consequences.
but, in a scenario where two people are free to marry, but one is a baptized jw and the other is disfellowshipped / disassociated, what are the consequences?.
thanks for your help.. r..
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Is a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses marries a disfellowshipped person, what is the outcome?
by EdenOne inhello all.. i need a quick answer, and also a solid reference in the literature, please.. if a jw marries an unbeliever, there is reproof, it's frowned upon, it's disloyal, there will be loss of privileges, etc, but there's no other more serious consequences.
but, in a scenario where two people are free to marry, but one is a baptized jw and the other is disfellowshipped / disassociated, what are the consequences?.
thanks for your help.. r..
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the df ray franz for association with his df employer...what does that tellyou? see book Crisis of Conscience
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this may be a useful dream
by enoughisenough ini had a dream this morning: i had moved and saw an old jw friend at as dreams go, i think a library.
we were chatting it up as old friends would.
says the spouse," keith?
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I had a dream this morning: I had moved and saw an old JW friend at as dreams go, I think a library. We were chatting it up as old friends would. "Look who is here," says the person to their spouse who has just shown up through a door. Says the spouse," Keith? told me you were disfellowshipped." Who is this person I wondered as I didn't even recognize the name; but I said, "Why would he tell you that?" No answer as they start to walk away. Me, to their backs, " I wasn't disfellowshipped." Waking up, this was what I consider a useful part of this dream: I can honestly say I was not disfellowshipped. I can choose to tell or not to tell that I sent a letter of disassociation. I think it is a calculation of the JW just to annouce that so and so is no Longer a JW. People just make up stories in their mind wondering who caught you stealing, smoking, fornicating, etc. If someone had disassociated, that should be stated at the announcement. ( not going to happen because then the r/f may become curous about what now ex jw knew that they don't. )
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New website -Testimonies on the adverse events of anti Covid-19 vaccination campaigns among Jehovah's Witnesses.
by was a new boy in'jehovah's witnesses are heavily vaccinated due to guidance given from july to december 20211 by the governing body.many witnesses have had serious adverse effects following vaccination campaigns and, for the most part, have had great difficulty in expressing them and having them recognized.this website was made to allow each witness touched by these vaccination campaigns to express it so that the community takes it into account.'.
https://adverse-events-jw.org.
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enoughisenough
markweathrill, " I agree that anti vaccination campaigns have adverse effects" Yeah! they would slow down the desired depopulation agenda. Definitely adverse when you WANT people to die.
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What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?
by Hellothere inpersonally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.
that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.
i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.
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Listener, It wasn't until I came to this forum that I knew the governments gave money to the JW. I was in for 50 years. I wonder how many r/f are like I was, just thinking the income was from donations. Since being on this forum, I have learned the some of the unethical "scams" that have been pulled on the gullible jw. If I had known the Governments were supporting them, I would have thought it wrong for them to depend upon the worldly governments...I mean wouldn't that make you a friend of the world? These court cases show you do have to be a friend of the world -if you don't do their bidding ( making them your master ) you don't get the funds. I guess it is ok for them to slave for two masters. ( actually we know they only play lip service to God being their master )
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What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?
by Hellothere inpersonally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.
that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.
i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.
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the spin: we are being persecuted and beware because we expect other countries to persecute us as well. ( and the scripture to back up the spin is the one where Jesus said his followers would be persecuted-see the proof we are the true religion. ( now how many r/f will swallow it?....most likely most because after all they like seeing proof they are in the truth
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New website -Testimonies on the adverse events of anti Covid-19 vaccination campaigns among Jehovah's Witnesses.
by was a new boy in'jehovah's witnesses are heavily vaccinated due to guidance given from july to december 20211 by the governing body.many witnesses have had serious adverse effects following vaccination campaigns and, for the most part, have had great difficulty in expressing them and having them recognized.this website was made to allow each witness touched by these vaccination campaigns to express it so that the community takes it into account.'.
https://adverse-events-jw.org.
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enoughisenough
So glad someone started that page...but...what gets me is how some want to stay in an organization where the GB promotes the koolaid...relatives drank, got sick or died, yet people stay with it, waiting on Jehovah...why doesn't it occur to them, that God is answering and he is saying: Get out of her if you don't want to share in her plague!
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Have I Drifted Too Far?
by sinboi ini was shocked, really shocked.
what i am doing now is so acceptable to the friends around me.. my friends are all doing it.
it is so normal in the society,.
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the ruthless tigers comment: sick and twisted...like being defeated is an excuse for cowardly gang rape so you will be feared! seriously, If by chance, the story isn't true, it still comes from a sick/twisted source.
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How Stef Woke Up!
by Vanderhoven7 infour of her relatives committed suicide because of the cult.. https://youtu.be/a63ry8ol7wc?si=-n4amwe0iguutk0f.
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I watched this...So much of her story reminded me of mine, save for the suicides. What a horrible thing!
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Can you openly express doubts in the congregation these days?
by Elena ini know of a lovely old sister who has been a jw for several decades now who openly expresses doubts about jw interpretations.. she does it in such a lovely way and everyone loves her.
she is such a sweet old soul, makes everyone happy around her.. she has said things like- even if we have got it wrong about this and that i still believe the bible is gods word”.
she answers up regularly and she goes on ministry groups but like most of us she is definitely jwlite, we don’t really do door to door work anymore.
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TonusOH , speaking of the witch hunt and cleaning out, they got rid of good men who were showing doubts and Ray Franz was trying to get them to correct some of their lies. How convenient, when the 1975 debacle fell through, that they kick Ray and others out and say they cleaned house of apostates. Then the r/f think it's a good thing, when really they were covering their lying tracks and Ray and others became the scape goat...that is how I see it.