LongHairGal...I agree there is no excuse for their ignorance at this stage of the game, They do refuse to look at anything that throws shade on the org. But, they have been so duped!I had "friends" that I wish would wake up. They work so hard for their 9 headed god. Hopefully something will come up and they will start questioning just because a seed was planted. They clearly had no knowledge of that which I spoke. As for the trust fund -I told them it was on a tax record that they could look up and it shows the WT as receiving the moneys and also showed the companies in question.
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JW s were here today with convention invite
by enoughisenough ini thought i would tell this story: 2 gals and a guy came by with invitation to convention.
i am in the yard.
the gals get out and are wearing pants.
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JW s were here today with convention invite
by enoughisenough ini thought i would tell this story: 2 gals and a guy came by with invitation to convention.
i am in the yard.
the gals get out and are wearing pants.
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fezzik, I may have told them correctly and wrote it incorrectly here. At anyrate, thanks for the catch and the advise
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JW s were here today with convention invite
by enoughisenough ini thought i would tell this story: 2 gals and a guy came by with invitation to convention.
i am in the yard.
the gals get out and are wearing pants.
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I thought I would tell this story: 2 gals and a guy came by with invitation to convention. I am in the yard. The gals get out and are wearing pants. I say, you are wearing pants and they acknowlege that. Anyway, I don't know how we got into it, but It we got into religion and money and war ( they brought up Catholics going to war, but what does the Bible say. Me: thou shall not kill. So I was asking them, how they would feel about a religion that made money from the war effort since they didn't go to war. Well they agreed that would be wrong. And what about making money from stocks in tobacco, porn, and war machinery . That would be wrong. How about expecting governments to give them state moneys? Where did Jesus get money. me: from his followers helping ( I didn't think to say he worked as a carpenter before his minsitry. I said some governments gave money to religions that meet their standards. ) I said well what about a religion that didn't meet a country's standard still expecting the government to give them money. They thought that wrong. So I told them they could look it up secularly, but JW made money on the mentioned things and were suing Norway for Money. Where did I get that? Me: I saw the tax records online for the stocks (I told them to look it up , Marrietta Riley Trust fund They make money on the war machinery, big pharma- ( had to throw in the poison jabs killed my sister.) ( that appears ok with them because it was given to them -I wish I had thought to mention, the early Christians got rid of bad things even though worth a lot of money. ) I got to tell them that in 1919 the lie of millions now living would never die and the world would end in 1925. This was being preached when Jesus chose them as his spokesmen on earth. ( of course , I got the new light sermon. ) Them : a man had written the book that was in. ( Duh! ) See how deep the programming goes! They wanted me to research and study yadayada. I said since you like to research, you should research what was being taught in 1919 that the became the chosen people, I also threw in The Walsh trial in Scotland where if your Bible taught you one thing and you disagreed with WT, you were deserving of death. At some point, they wanted to know where I got this info. Me: online. One said online they think there is big foot and lock nest monster. Says I: I believe they exist. How does this end? the man got out of the car and came around and said, he perceived I didn't like JWs and they had to get going. I said that I did like JWs ( a do a individuals, but not the lying religion but I didn't say that. I told them to come back anytime. ( I won't hold my breathe.) I did play ignorant and ask where the scripture about the light getting brighter was and she showed me and I ask for context and read it...and it went over her head!!! I like the people and feel sorry for them.
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A Few Simple Conclusions
by mrquik ini had 50 years in.
here's a few (personal) observations to live by:.
1. the one true religion is not here.
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enoughisenough
I used to say if the JW don't have the "truth" ( true religion ) then it doesn't exist ( YET ) so I have 50 in before I woke and I agree with you.
I find it interesting Jesus told the Samaritan woman, people wouldn't be worshipping in any certain place, but in spirit and in truth...we don't need big business parading as religions to entrap us. They are cons.
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The Governing Body Are Proud To announce..
by Ron.W. inthe governing body are proud to announce... can you finish off the line for them - the more outrageous the better,, .
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You don't need Jesus because we are his substitute...you get truth, life, and come to the Father through us.
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What was the strangest situation in your JW Kingdom Hall? Was it weirder than siblings having SEVEN kids together?
by Balaamsass2 inthis is chart-topper: "jehovah's witness whose parents were siblings opens up about their twisted relationship - which saw them having seven children together".
vanessa, from ohio, appeared on an episode of the we're all insane podcast.
the 46-year-old explained she is 'one of seven kids born to a brother and sister'.
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a group from New Jersey came to work unassigned territory and the local congregation was asked if they could help house these brothers and sisters, It was agreed two visiting sisters would share a queen size bed in my house. One sister appeared to be almost old enough to be the other's mother. They were from neighboring congregations in NJ. It was the week of the state fair where I lived. The two sisters would come in from service and retire to the little room with the queen size bed ( no chair in that room) even though they had access to living room, kitchen etc. I thought this odd. I also thought it odd when I noticed them cuddled up together on the bed. Beings it was fair week, we went to the fair, and they walked around the fair ground sort of laced together. ( ok, you know what I'm thinking.....The local congregation had the visiting group on stage to share their experiences in the unassigned work. I waited to see what sort of experience these two sisters had. It was a large group ( I want to say 14 altogether. ) Everyone told of an experience they had save for these two sisters.
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What was the strangest situation in your JW Kingdom Hall? Was it weirder than siblings having SEVEN kids together?
by Balaamsass2 inthis is chart-topper: "jehovah's witness whose parents were siblings opens up about their twisted relationship - which saw them having seven children together".
vanessa, from ohio, appeared on an episode of the we're all insane podcast.
the 46-year-old explained she is 'one of seven kids born to a brother and sister'.
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a situation: a married JW man refused to sit with his wife and if he did, he made sure a chair was between them, but he didn't have any issue sitting beside his gay bible study, so he ended up sitting with the " boyfriend".
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Disaster preparedness
by ElderBerry inas your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
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I remember watching part of a convention where they people were going into the refugee camps. (and a JW donation box was in place!) Anyway, the point I will try to make is the preemptive programming to go to the camps. Well, if you look into some of the conspiracy videos, these are actually death camps to get rid of people in the future. They are equipped with guillotines. I have thought about why guillotines- maybe organ harvesting?Just a randon thought. The point is those guillotines are not there for the health and welfare of the campers! I have watched videos about agenda 21 and and 30 and sustainable design and there is a plan for to reduce the population and I THINK the JW org is a puppet of those in power who pull the strings of those agendas.-so teach your people to pack a bag and go to a camp! Then there is video footage of fields full of mass caskets stacked up. (coincidence!) When the congregation was first gathering details of where you would go,etc,, I thought how loving they are to look after us...but now I don't have rose colored glasses.
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"Everyone Wants To Leave"
by NotFormer ina thread about steve hassan re-emerged and got me looking him up.
his wikipedia entry had a point under "criticism" that there is an underlying assumption in his approach that all members of high control groups ultimately want to leave*.. while it is generally believed that there are a lot of pimos still attending, doing field service and giving lip service to the wt, i doubt that everyone within the congregations want to get out.
it's not always internally and logically consistent, but it's been around long enough for enough workarounds to make it tolerable to emerge.. what do you think?
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Dr Phil says people do what works for them. As long as I thought I was being taught truth ( because of listening to them to not pay attention to "apostates" ) I thought it was where I should be and didn't want to leave. ( however, in the back of my mind I thought if ever something solid I could bite into that showed them not to teach truth, I would leave ) I didn't look for that something and also there were things I thought they had wrong, but put that in the category of human imperfection) If I had looked, I would have seen. People aren't looking or they would see all the out in your face lies! So I think they don't want to leave. When people do come up to facing the lies, they don't want to believe they have been mislead for years/decades. They don't want to leave, but know they can't go on as before once the scales fall from their lying eyes. You may then have the PIMO who stays put because as Dr Phil says, it works for them. Some have to get out because staying in and playing along doesn't work for them-getting out is what works for them! Getting out worked for me!
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For all JW's: Stop calling others "apostates."
by BoogerMan inif you don't want to be thrown into gehenna, read what your own faithful evil slave & christ say:.
cj chap.
3 p. 110 chapter 3 - "jesus christ said: “whoever says, ‘you despicable fool!’ (apostate) will be liable to the fiery gehenna.” (matt.
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I am sure many so called apostates haven't left God, but rather JWorg...but the rank and file have it pounded into their heads that the apostates have left Jehovah and therefore are on fit for death. "come back to Jehovah"...what a laugh! the r and f don't know the difference between God Almighty and a publishing company.