they have a very big child abuse enabler international reputation in the courts can these things be a reason for banning these stupid ass carts that claims to have all the answers to mans hardest questions.. why should every library have to permit them to plant their lame ass carts close to the entrance.. i'm thinking that soon due to all the bad publicity surrounding the jehovah witness cult leaders that cart witnessing will come to be seen as a very big waste of time by all it's members that have become hall less thus missing a shit load of meeting and a beginning to start thinking for themselves.. i'm sure many jws hate this type of work even now, even though it's an easy way to get your time in and not be labeled inactive or keep the elders off your back.
have you noticed that a lot of carts don't have a jw near by?
i never see anybody at the carts where i live, i've even asked people nearby and nobody knew who put the cart there.
They make money by charging the congregation for it. If a congregation isn't sending in enough money to cover literature costs with a certain profit margin, the congregation future orders will not will not be honored or not filled.
Brokeback, The WT doesn't charge the congregation for the literature and the carts. There is no calculation done at Bethel to determine a congregation's profit margin.
so i picked up an original copy of the 1920 millions book.
can anyone give me some of the most crazy wrong predictions in this book?
its a rare book that is a bit hard to find.
But how can one argue with an original copy of a publication they printed at HQ?
But why would an active JW want to argue with you over the date 1925? They will simply dismiss it as old understanding.
Anyway, they have mentioned in their publications that they were wrong about 1925:
Watchtower 1993, 11/1, para 18-20:
Further, the widely circulated booklet Millions Now Living Will Never Die presented the view that in 1925, God’s purposes regarding the restoring of the earth to Paradise and the resurrecting of the faithful ones of old would begin to be fulfilled.
The year 1925 came to its conclusion, but the end was not yet! Ever since the 1870’s, Bible Students had been serving with a date in mind —first 1914, then 1925. Now, they realized that they must serve for as long as Jehovah wishes.
they have a very big child abuse enabler international reputation in the courts can these things be a reason for banning these stupid ass carts that claims to have all the answers to mans hardest questions.. why should every library have to permit them to plant their lame ass carts close to the entrance.. i'm thinking that soon due to all the bad publicity surrounding the jehovah witness cult leaders that cart witnessing will come to be seen as a very big waste of time by all it's members that have become hall less thus missing a shit load of meeting and a beginning to start thinking for themselves.. i'm sure many jws hate this type of work even now, even though it's an easy way to get your time in and not be labeled inactive or keep the elders off your back.
have you noticed that a lot of carts don't have a jw near by?
i never see anybody at the carts where i live, i've even asked people nearby and nobody knew who put the cart there.
I feel these carts are a pathetic last stab to try and make money from printed material by the Watchtower Corporation.
How does the WT make money from Cart witnessing?
in another corner of the internet someone stated that witnesses are proclaiming that this system will be no more than 40 years now... that "gog of magog" will start the great tribulation.
can anyone confirm this latest "prediction"?.
I'm just trying to confirm if they have made an actual, current, "40 years" prediction. I'd just like to get it in writing somewhere
There is no such thing in writing anywhere in the publications of the JW's.
thanks to atlantis and his sources, we are able to examine material from the alleged "faithful slave" which is intended only for the eyes of the shepherds wolves in the congregation.. information needed for visit of circuit overseer .
all congregation accounts records covering the period since the last visit, which would include any bankbook being used and the records for any additional accounts being kept by the congregation.
(do you have excess money which should have been given to us?).
Why doesn't the CO, at the very least, review JCs?
If the CO's began to review all the JC's, there would be more disfellowhippings. There are many congregations where elders mishandle cases or don't handle them at all. CO's are hardlines and would ensure people don't get mercy.
A prime example of this is India, where hordes of elders are now being deleted for not handling cases.
a thought struck me regarding the biblical directive found in a few places including exodus 20:4.
"do not make a likeness of god in the form of any creature that is on the earth or heavens ".
it would seem disrespectful to use "dirty" creatures to describe perfect beings?.
Regarding the Ark of the Covenant, no one worshipped it nor bowed down to it. Only the high priest entered the most holy once a year. Hence that in itself doesn't contradict the second commandment.
w11 8/15 p. 22 questions from readers - “we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.
the governing body does not keep a list of all partakers.. see this - s-21-e congregation's publisher record (2018-12).pdf
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6255453529964544/2019-elders-manual-whole-lot-more.
Doesn't the org get its "anointed statistics" straight from a congregation's records and the annual "roll-call" count of partakers at the memorial?
The secretary forwards the total partakers figure to the Branch. No list is maintained in the congregation, nor at the branch level.
Hence the particular WT is right when it states that they don't have a list of partakers.
But with the "wordwide unique Watchtower Publisher ID" on their HUB they have a database with all JWs.
This is not yet implemented
this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
Does he therefore have the right to sue?
Yes, he can sue. He can sue his parents for throwing him out of the house. He can even sue the WT for defamation, emotional distress and/or privacy violations.
The problem here is not about the right to sue, anyone can sue anyone over anything. It's about how successful one can become in this path and how worthwhile that suit is.
Kindly encourage him to do so and let us know the outcome.
this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
No. The majority of them today did not as they were born in and baptized while they were minors, some as young as 8 years old.
Then their parents are to be blamed for the indoctrination. They took their child to the baptism pool.
And these children who continued going to meetings after they turned 18, proved that they still agreed with the WT rules. (One of these 8 year old made their way to the current Governing Body) They can leave anytime. Agreed that they will be shunned, but freedom from a cult has its own consequences.
A person can walk away from his cultic past and have a successful life. If he has lots of money, time and willingness to accept defeat, he can sue the WT.
this is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
JWs actively threaten members who would not respect the shunning order.
But didn't these members voluntarily join the group with these rules?
That's precisely the problem with religions, children never get that chance.
Then the parents of these children are to blame. They took their children to the baptism pool knowing the full consequences.
