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  Why Do Intelligent People Still Believe In The Jehovah’s Witness Religion?

  by minimus in

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  i understand it’s a cult.

  but what makes an intelligent person actually believe they have the “truth” as taught by jehovah’s witnesses??

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  Drearyweather

  If a person decides not to join the JW religion, does it mean he is intelligent?
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  Disfellowshipped for NOT activating my camera on ZOOM meeting

  by Aleph in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey so i won't go too much into the details though there would be so much more to say....in a nutshell, you are repentant but not enough so we disfellowship you ....i asked, can you clarified this "not enough repentant" please ?as one of the reason of not being repentant : " you didn't put on your camera during zoom meetings !!!

  " they yelled at me, like a bunch of wolves against a sheep....so :.

  - no scriptural basis.- abuse of power.- my phone can't handle to have its camera on more than 20 minutes.then they yelled " jehovah does want you in the congregation" !like you are not welcome here....strangely to me, isaiah 1:18 and the story of the prodigal son tells a complete different story....well the whole bible is about love forgiveness and repentance !!

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  Aleph, you said

  As one of the reason of not being repentant : " You didn't put on your camera during zoom meetings !!!" they yelled at me, like a bunch of wolves against a sheep...

  So the camera not being on was just one of the reasons. What were the other reasons that they gave you?

  Are we missing some important details from your story?

  Not that I am interested to go into your personal life, but the title of your post is too sensational to believe.
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  How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

  ) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

  the organization answers: .

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  If you do not, they do not "count" you as a J.W.,

  and that's actually a blessing as most people choose this way to fade away from the organization.
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  How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

  ) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

  the organization answers: .

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  Drearyweather

  So when RETURNING to JEHOVAH as this week watchtower study article is based. Those willing to do so should be ready to RESUME their WORK as SALES MARKETER.

  Isn't it obvious for any setting? If you want to be a writer, you need to write. If you want to be a salesman, you need to sell. If you want to be a Jehovah's Witness, you need to witness, or preach.

  Regarding baptism, it is an initiation ceremony to get you inside the club. Once inside, you need to follow a host of rules to maintain your membership. The two baptismal questions just get you in, and nothing else.
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  Tonight's Meeting

  by Studyover in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  during tonight's meeting the brother seemed to read out something along the lines of "you may be helping a poor sister who you think may be struggling, but in turn that sister may be getting financial assistance from the government.

  it is always best to stick to jehovah's arrangement in these matters so that help can get to those who most need it, including the worldwide work".

  i think it may have been an article about social media platforms initially and how they should be avoided and then this was mentioned.

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  waton: dw: is it correct that it said, everyone that starts a theme, campaign or a site will be held responsible for any adverse outcome?

  No, this is no where in the outline.

  The talk was just about messaging apps.
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  Tonight's Meeting

  by Studyover in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  during tonight's meeting the brother seemed to read out something along the lines of "you may be helping a poor sister who you think may be struggling, but in turn that sister may be getting financial assistance from the government.

  it is always best to stick to jehovah's arrangement in these matters so that help can get to those who most need it, including the worldwide work".

  i think it may have been an article about social media platforms initially and how they should be avoided and then this was mentioned.

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  I think it may have been an article about social media platforms initially and how they should be avoided and then this was mentioned. Did anyone else hear it...did I hear correctly?

  The talk that was given this week in the Local needs in all congregations was about using messaging apps wisely.

  The outline says: "Some with good intentions have used messaging apps to solicit funds for brothers in need However, there are arrangements already in place to help such ones"

  It doesn't say not to help other jw's in need, but not to use messaging apps to solicit funds, which happened recently in many countries with people scamming other jw's in the pretense of helping a sick JW in some African country

  
  
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  I don't get it - Marriage in WT world

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in wt world, a marriage is only seen (considered) as legal if it is registered in the municipality (or similar governmental organisation).

  now, if you look at the scriptures, there was no requirement to have a marriage legally registered in order to be considered married.

  is it not strange that the wt subjects themselves to and adopts an worldly arrangement setup but governments rules by satan when it comes to a marital status?.

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  Not sure where you live, but where I live, a marriage is considered legal by the government only if it is registered by the local authority.
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  Marry in white - a worldly practice

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was not aware but just learned that is was queen victoria who was the first to get marries in white dress.

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  so, it is a worldly practice.... i assume jw's should reconsider whether they adopt / continue this worldly practice or keep away from it ... .

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  LOL, Which colour do you suggest they turn to, that doesn't have a worldly connection?

  by the way, Even the modern trousers that we wear originated from the sixth century BC Greek geographers who found wearing trousers while riding horses was more comfortable than wearing togas.
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  Transparency in Field Service Hours

  by Earnest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i notice that in the recent instructions for new regular pioneers (2020-08-s-236-e) it lists a number of assignments for which a pioneer can be credited (up to 75) hours in a month.. these include:construction oversight, assembly hall oversight, assembly oversight, and convention oversight, as well as serving as temporary volunteers at bethel, commuter bethelites, remote volunteers, bethel consultants, hospital liaison committee members, patient visitation group members, disaster relief committee members, local design/construction department field representatives and maintenance trainers, and so forth.

  approved assignments also include assisting with kingdom hall construction when such is done at the request of the branch office or its representatives overseeing the project, assisting with pre and post-assembly or convention work, assisting with work at assembly halls, conducting or participating in congregation meetings held in prison, as well as attendance at a theocratic school or class .

  when i was pioneering and doing pre and post-assembly work i was told i could include the time spent working in my monthly report, which i did.

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  Are the assignment hours reported along with the ministry hours in the annual report?

  No, the hours mentioned in the comments section are not sen to the society, and are just used for that particular pioneer. As a Secretary, I never had to total or send those hours mentioned in the comments.
  

  Another loophole this document doesn’t address is the fact that elders can report shepherding and some other activities in their reports.

  No. Elders cannot count the shepherding hours in their report. This has been the official instruction since 1981:

  The Society is interested in knowing how much time is spent in proclaiming God’s truths to those who are not dedicated, baptized Witnesses. So time spent in shepherding or other calls made on those who are not strong spiritually and those who have not associated for some time should not be counted if the individual is a baptized Witness. It is a labor of love.

  -Kingdom Ministry - August 1981, Page3
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  The women that abandon “The Good News” are a large army

  by Aimee.Padilla in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  to be born a woman is a great disadvantage in many parts of the world and much more if she is part of a destructive sect like the jehovah’s witnesses where she is submitted to the “theocratic order” being the base that sustains the corporate pyramid, displaying submission at all times before male authority.

  those of us that have been part of this cult can verify that the woman has to carry out a series of practices that for the rest of society is somewhat incomprehensible.

  i’d like to draw your attention to the act of head covering, if for any reason a woman has to pray in public while a male is present, who is not available to lead the prayer, she must cover her head because she wouldn’t be respecting the arrangement of authority if she didn’t.

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  I sympathize with what the OP went through in her life. Good that she is free now though from the mental slavery that she experienced.

  In my life as a JW, most of the women that I came across in my life (including my mother, wife, and sister) were quite happy to be sitting in the congregation listening to talks, rather than give them. Many of them discussed how they felt pity about their husbands sitting through late at night for their meeting parts, elders meeting, and all.

  When I was an elder, I used to go for a lot of different meetings and came home tired. The best thing for me was my wife welcoming me with refreshments. I was happy that my wife didn't have those responsibilities and she was happy about that too. She spent that time looking after my old parents and taking care of my other needs. I was always grateful that she was spared of all the pressure that I was going through.

  My wife always said that while she has to remain submissive to a loving person like me, I had to remain submissive to a lot of uneducated, and rude men of authority in the JW world. Looking at my congregation, I saw that young girls were happier than the young men who were constantly being pressured to climb up the organizational ladder and being called upon for a lot of hard work.

  To be honest, in the JW organization, I have seen more unhappy men than unhappy women.