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  Does the GB direct cult members to burn old books?

  by mickbobcat in

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  i was told but can not find anything concrete that the cult gb directs cult members to burn old cult books and literature.

  is this true.

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  Drearyweather

  Has the branch asked members to burn old books? No

  Has the branch asked congregations to burn older items?

  Each year, individual branches send letters to the congregation instructing which items to display, and which to discard. Our congregation, being a non-english congregation, asked the branch to elaborate what 'discard' means. The branch replied that discard meant to remove them from the Kingdom hall, by either giving them out to the publishers who needed them, and if no one needs them, then destroy them rather than letting them rot in the storeroom.

  What about older publications from the Library?

  Below are the latest instructions (as of 2020):

  "Since some publishers and interested persons do not use computers or electronic devices, the elders should give careful consideration to the needs of such individuals when making decisions as to the Kingdom Hall library, especially before deciding to eliminate printed publications. If the publications will be provided in electronic form, such as on a device or on a computer, a printer should be made available. At least one responsible brother should be assigned to keep the library up-to-date and in good order.

  In the event that the bodies of elders decide to eliminate printed publications from the library, care should be taken not to discard items that have historical significance. The branch office may wish to add such items to its library or to its archive of historical materials." - sfl Chap 21, Para 39-40

  Not sure about other countries, but here there is no direction to destroy all older books. Most of the older congregations still have libraries with one copy of each printed publication.
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  Being partial

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what do jws think about a regular member in congregation can be disfellowshipped, but when governing body makes something wrong, like two witnesses rules on child molestation, it's just considered 'they are not perfect' and can do wrong?

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  Drearyweather

  If you feel that members of the governing body are never disfellowshipped or removed, or asked to resign from their positions, then do research on the following names:

  Raymond Franz, Leo Greenlees, Ewart Chitty

  There have been 31 members in the governing body up till now (living and dead) and 3 were asked to leave their positions. Almost 10%.
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  Describe life as a JW.

  by Overrated in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  under constant watch of other jw.

  being told how your life is run.

  everything you do under a microscope.

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  Drearyweather

  If you were raised as a JW, then your life is dependent on how deluded your parents were, and then if you yourself become a JW as an adult, then your life depends on how deluded you yourself were.

  But then, that doesn't mean that being a non-JW, or not becoming a JW, or leaving JW's automatically means that you an intelligent and wise person. I have seen perfectly happy JW families and completely wrecked non-jw families, even ex-JW families.

  After all, life is about making decisions. and there are countless other wrong decisions that a person can make other than deciding to be a JW.
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  I am still not able to solve this God's name paradox...

  by psyco in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am finishing to read the entire bible (nwt 2013) for my first time (my fault) and i wrote down hundreds, maybe thousands, of questions not clear to me, but one especially came in my mind meditating on god's name.. if i wanted to summarize the entire bible in one phrase i would say (even before the kingdom): god’s name sanctification.. god is jealous about his name.

  he does everything for the love of his name, and he wants to be called and prayed using his name.

  no doubt about all this (repeated several times in the bible), but it involves the pronunciation of his name.. god left us his name in the form of יהוה which is unpronounceable.

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  Drearyweather

  Even if we knew the actual pronunciation of God's name, we would still have used the anglicized version of it or the local regional language version of it.
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  Awake Magazine - No Longer Being Printed?

  by JWTom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone made reference in another post that the awake magazine had ceased publication.

  maybe i missed it since i have not been on here as much in the last 6 months.

  is this true?

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  Drearyweather

  Got to know from an internal source in Bethel - The Awake magazine is being printed. The digital release has been delayed due to some reasons. The topic for the Awake No. 1, 2021 is "Wisdom for Life and Happiness"
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  How long did it take before you realized that you missed the obvious?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember when the public speaker in the kingdom hall or convention related the ten plagues and the parting of the red sea?.

  the finale when jehovah closes the red sea and swallows pharaoh's entire army of egyptian men.. when i was a little kid about 5 years old and listened to this story, i would think---wow jehovah is strong.

  when i started school and started learning compassion as early as the first grade i started wondering?????.

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  I remember asking a circuit overseer if Adam in the garden of Eden needed a sword for any reason? He said no...So Jehovah invented the Sword, not man then? i asked. He looked confused,

  I guess this discussion between you and the Circuit Overseer must have happened before 1994. The following is the answer given in a 94 WT article:

  w94 2/1 p. 31

  Consider another example from the early chapters of Genesis. After Adam and Eve sinned and were expelled from the garden, Jehovah prevented them from returning. How? Genesis 3:24 says: “He drove the man out and posted at the east of the garden of Eden the cherubs and the flaming blade of a sword that was turning itself continually to guard the way to the tree of life.” Notice, “the flaming blade of a sword.” Did God invent swords?

  We need not conclude that our loving Creator was the first one to make what we know as swords. Adam and Eve saw turning in front of the angels something that was blazing. What exactly was it? By the time Moses wrote the book of Genesis, swords were well-known and used in warfare. (Genesis 31:26; 34:26; 48:22; Exodus 5:21; 17:13) So Moses’ words “the flaming blade of a sword” enabled his readers to visualize to a degree what existed at the entrance of Eden. The information known in Moses’ day contributed to the understanding of such matters. And the language Moses employed must have been accurate, for Jehovah had it included in the Bible.​—2 Timothy 3:16.
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  How long did it take before you realized that you missed the obvious?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember when the public speaker in the kingdom hall or convention related the ten plagues and the parting of the red sea?.

  the finale when jehovah closes the red sea and swallows pharaoh's entire army of egyptian men.. when i was a little kid about 5 years old and listened to this story, i would think---wow jehovah is strong.

  when i started school and started learning compassion as early as the first grade i started wondering?????.

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  Wondering about all those Egyptian Men!!

  Ok, so I read the story again. A group of men with spears and weapons pursing a group of families with children, women, and old people, sick people, etc. If I was among the Israelites, then I would have been happy to see those men drown in the red sea, than see my wife, kids and parents being killed or subjugated by them.
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  Ban on Independent Meetings

  by lssjr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  source - march 2021 announcements - - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5085868283920384/2021-march-147-english-german-announcements-reminders.

  this is a sobering reminder of what happened some 40 years ago when raymond franz and others were literally kicked out from the jehovah's witnesses for having pre-arranged private spiritual discussions.lesson: paragraph 7 is another example of the i and t in dr. steven hassan's bite model of the 21st century cult - information and thought control at its best!!!!

  "my gosh, there must be a lot of independent meetings these days.

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  Drearyweather

  This announcement is actually a relief to witnesses!

  In our congregation, our elder used to conduct a weekly session to understand the Pure Worship (Ezekiel) book, every Saturday, which sometimes used to run to 3 hrs! Ones who didn't attend were even counseled.

  In our neighboring congregation, they had a daily 45 min morning worship program to discuss the daily text.

  I have attended these with my family and none of these meetings were 'deep research' meetings, but just some energetic overzealot elders taking advantage of the property of gathering everyone over zoom, and which overburdened the publishers.

  Good riddance!
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  Do We Get A Clean Slate When We Die? (Watchtower View Examined)

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower teaches that the opportunity to be born again and enjoy complete justification with god ended in 1935, having been limited to only 144k since pentecost.

  so, it is very surprising that the watchtower embraces the death that is described in romans chapter 6, since this is the very death that is required to be born again…… which is denied to watchtower members!

  romans chapter 6, verse 7 is about saying goodbye to the old personality, the “old man” in the king james version.

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  Drearyweather

  The Watchtower teaches that the opportunity to be born again and enjoy complete Justification with God ended in 1935

  This is old light
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  Teachings "Unique to JW's" They Hide From You Before Baptism

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah can't be your father in this life.

  'they [jw members] address him prospectively as "our father.

  jesus is not your mediator:.

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  Drearyweather

  How can we say that the JW's hide these teachings, when the references you have mentioned are out in the public domain on their website?

  Any individual who is studying with the witnesses has access to these publications.

  If an individual has not figured out these basic teachings after a year or 2 of studying, then there is something wrong with him.