Posts by Drearyweather

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JW profit from disasters
by enoughisenough in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
some time back i questioned about jw making money from doing relief work for disasters.

i found this story on reddit and also noted some of the replies.

it makes me wonder how many would have left their own jobs and paid their way, giving free labor and some supplying free materials if they had know what was going on behind the scenes.
Drearyweather

I am not sure how it happens in US, but during the 2004 Tsunami, the WT in India built and repaired around 350 houses of JW's in the affected area, and almost none of them had homeowner insurance as it's not a popular form of Insurance here in India. I know because I coordinated the relief efforts during that time and was on the committee that had oversight.
During COVID, Angola, Zimbabwe and Venezuela were provided with relief in the same way.
I am not sure of Wt actually makes any "profit" out of disasters - whatever that means, unless there are actual numbers to prove.
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Waiting On Jehovah First Mentioned?
by Ron.W. in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
yes, waiting on jehovah for him to handle a problem/ doctrine etc.. when did the jw's first start saying that?

they've been saying it as long as i can remember.. what scriptures do they trot out to back that teaching up?

?.
Drearyweather

Joseph waiting in prison for Jehovah to get him out after the cupbearer who was released forgot about him.
Micah waiting for Jehovah to correct the matters during the rule of the unfaithful and wicked King Ahaz - “I will show a waiting attitude for the God of my salvation. My God will hear me.”
Psalmist saying that he will wait for Jehovah to correct his opposers: May those who are resisting me
Be put to shame and perish.
May those seeking my calamity
Be covered with disgrace and humiliation
But as for me, I will continue to wait;
I will add to your praise.
Jesus asking his followers to have a waiting attitude. “Let your loins be girded and your lamps be burning, and you yourselves be like men waiting for their master when he returns from the marriage, so that at his arriving and knocking they may at once open to him. Happy are those slaves whom the master on arriving finds watching!
Peter asking his readers to have that attitude: “Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion, awaiting and keeping close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah!”
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2024 Regional convention
by ElderBerry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
can anyone answer the question about the regional convention?

has there been 2024 all three days convention released yet?

videos and all?.
Drearyweather

This clip is not "from the last weekend" as he says, but from the last year's 2023 "Exercise Patience" Regional Convention - Last talk of Friday afternoon session, given by the branch representative.
The speaker in the convention is simply explaining Matt 25:31 and saying that Jesus will sit on his judgement throne to separate the sheep and the goats in the future, and not in 1914 as once thought.
The creator of the video is just getting confused with the semantics about Jesus becoming king in 1914 vs. sitting on his judgement throne in the future during the great tribulation.
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Geoffrey Jackson goatiegate Part 2
by Tahoe in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
from ske graduation this past weekend.

(sent from a pimi).

from ske on zoom: .
Drearyweather

The SKE? He is still in the business? Doesn't look too sad to me. Will he be restored to being a GB somebody? He is giving a talk by the looks of it.
Are you confusing Geoffrey Jackson with Anthony Morris?
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smiddy3 & waton - Hope they are fine
by Drearyweather in
1. jw
2. friends
haven't heard from both of them since long.

smiddy3 was in his 80's and waton in his 90's.

hope they are fine.
Drearyweather

Haven't heard from both of them since long. smiddy3 was in his 80's and waton in his 90's. Hope they are fine.
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Numbers
by moley in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
are they fudging there numbers to make it seem that there’s no decrease .
Drearyweather

You are asking this question on an ex-JW forum, so you should have an idea of what response you will get for it.
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2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope
by raymond frantz in
1. watchtower
2. bible
https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.

branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).

number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).
Drearyweather

I think you can spin any statistics to any conclusion that you want. If the numbers increase then they are fake and if they decrease then the WT is dying.
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt in
1. watchtower
2. bible
to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
Drearyweather

if you're absolutely perfect and absolutely in the good side, not even ever are you gonna be tempted about going to the dark side.
Angels are not absolutely perfect. If you are a created being - then you can be perfect only in a relative sense.
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Has there been a change in how society counts publishers?
by Hellothere in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
just made a fast check on yearly watchtower report.

bulgaria numbers 2022 was +1.

for 2023 they + 4. uruguay for 2022.
Drearyweather

’m sure the new way of counting will give a boost to the numbers
Why will it boost the numbers?
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt in
1. watchtower
2. bible
to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
Drearyweather

I'm not sure that's a good analogy. Putting aside that God created the hotel, all the rooms, and the content of each room, if He found Himself on the outside of this "room", how does He know its the right room to look into, or even pass by? Who or what is labeling the rooms for God?
So are you saying that God is like an author who already knows what happens to each character of the story? If yes, where does the concept of free will come in?
Whatever state that was, why is it "perfect" and not just "very good"?
Maybe because someone with sin can be "very good", but not perfect?