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  The Best Is Yet To Come

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in my memory irecall a phase many years ago when this phrase seemed to be on everyone's lips "the best isyet to come".

  my of this may be not very clear but one thing is clear, nothing better ever came, silver sword, videos, caleb trash, lowering decorum, down, down, down.

  i dread to think what worse would be like!.

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  Drearyweather

  This phrase was attributed to Daniel Sydlik, who even gave a talk on this.

  Nothing Better Ever Came

  With the phrase he meant the new world, or paradise
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  Orwellian change of the history(Again)

  by Ray Frankz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, this month's jw broadcasting had a curious piece of history class.

  samuel herd was there, but i don't remember if it was him that presented it.

  the theme was "how it was to be a jw in the years 1900.".

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  Drearyweather

  The publisher plays the speech "Millions now living will never die" and touch the emotions of the widower because of the part talking about the ressurection.

  Ray Frankz,

  Are you sure that speech is of the "Millions now living will never die" campaign?

  The record cover used by the publisher shows the Rutherford books from the 1930's period, and the Phonograph record cover which he used to play the speech is entitled "Religion - By Rutherford", which was a book released in 1940 i guess. The speech starts with the topic "Where are the dead?" which was also the topic of a booklet that Rutherford wrote in 1932.

  I may be wrong, but how did you came to the conclusion that the speech is of the "Millions now living will never die"? which was way back in 1920's?
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  Orwellian change of the history(Again)

  by Ray Frankz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, this month's jw broadcasting had a curious piece of history class.

  samuel herd was there, but i don't remember if it was him that presented it.

  the theme was "how it was to be a jw in the years 1900.".

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  Drearyweather

  When did they stop using the "religion is a snare and a racket" phrase?

  The started using this phrase in the late 1930's. This phrase was a topic of a lecture given by Rutherford in 1938 and is heavily used in the book Religion released in 1941

  
  
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  Do any of the current Governing Body have academic qualifications?

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do any of the current governing body have academic qualifications?.

  thanks.

  paul.

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  Drearyweather

  You do not need academic qualifications if you claim to speak for God.

  Look at Jesus. What academic qualifications did he have?

  And even if you are qualified, it doesn't give an assurance that everyone will believe what you say just because you are qualified.

  Look at Luke and Paul for this, who were supposedly qualified
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  The Golden rule (Matt 7:12) - Do JW's apply it?

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is no doubt (in my mind at least from my own personal experience) that in day to day matters most witnesses are genuinely loving and kind (or "nice") people (though their indoctrination and fundamentalist mentality often inhibits their natural kindness and tolerance and often gets in the way of fulling showing it).

  however i would like to put the case that when it comes to their ministry and theological/scientific discussion of any type, they fail to apply even the most basic of bible principles that they claim to espouse - the golden rule!

  here is what occurred to me.... some things jw's would like men to do to them:.

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  Drearyweather

  doubtfull1799,

  It seems JW's are following Jesus. In Luke 11:37-52, just read how Jesus went full blown on a Pharisee who invited him for a meal and who got surprised that Jesus did not wash his hands before eating.

  So, if you decide someone acts as a typical Pharisee by finding faults in you, the Golden Rule does not apply!
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  Translating accurately is really f*&%$ing hard!

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to relay an example that i heard about translating difficulties.

  take the 5 word phrase.

  "i didn't eat your sandwich".

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  Drearyweather

  A good translator does not translate words and phrases, rather he conveys thoughts and ideas behind the phrase in the target language taking into consideration the context in which the sentence is written.

  If the context is not provided or not available, then the translator has the freedom to translate the sentence that would be best understood in the target language.

  "I didn't eat your sandwich" - If this phrase is a part of a conversation or a story, the translator will take into context the entire conversation while translating.

  "I didn't eat your sandwich" - If this is just a slogan, punch line or a tag line with no context whatsoever, the translator will translate it the best way in which it can be understood in the target language.
  
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  Governing Body Members Autographing Bibles

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have an online ex jw friend who pointed out to me that she stumbled upon a may 15, 1999 watchtower that had pictures of governing body members autographing bibles for people.

  i have no bound volumes or cd rom copies anymore so i can verify.

  two things came to mind, if this is true:.

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  Drearyweather

  According to Drearyweather, that would be okay if they were asked to sign a book and give it to them only as a gift.

  And according to Listener, if a person becomes a member of the GB, he should stop signing altogether (even a grocery bill or a bank form), because whenever a GB member signs anything, he is actually giving his autograph and is thus promoting idolatry and showing his celebrity status. He should stubbornly refuse to sign anything. Because signing something and gifting it to someone is not a sign of humility.
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  When JWs Pray for Houston

  by NJ501 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i hear prayers given by brothers why do they only pray for other jws not all people??

  i remember hearing a comment from my mother saying 4000 jws are affected by this...and i'm thinking yes that is sad but what about the tens of thousands other people affected?

  too me it just doesn't seem right to just pray for jws but to pray for all victims.

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  When I hear prayers given by brothers why do they only pray for other JWs not all people??

  To pray or not to pray is a personal choice. And people also have a choice as to whom they want to include in their prayers.

  If your friend meets with an accident, you may ardently pray for his recovery. However, this does not mean that you are indifferent and callous since you did not include all other people who must have met with an accident that day.

  There were instances where even Jesus was specific in his prayers. John 17:9: I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

  I appreciate that you pray for everyone. However, when we start judging whether others are doing the same in their prayers, we are assuming God's role. Prayers are made to God and let God decide whether whose prayer is appropriate.
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  Governing Body Members Autographing Bibles

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have an online ex jw friend who pointed out to me that she stumbled upon a may 15, 1999 watchtower that had pictures of governing body members autographing bibles for people.

  i have no bound volumes or cd rom copies anymore so i can verify.

  two things came to mind, if this is true:.

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  Drearyweather

  Herelgo, I feel there is a difference between autographs and signing gift books.

  Many a times, when we give books to someone, we sign it as a friendly gesture. In decades past, many JW;s would sign books and gift it to other people or fellow JW's.

  "To Kevin, Love from Judy, Bristol Convention, 1979"

  If a fan goes to the GB and asks them to sign his book, then I would call that as an autograph.

  It is not what is happening here, GB members are not autographing Bibles for "people" standing in a line with their books, as fans would do with Authors. But they are signing bibles and gifting them to public officials as a friendly gesture.
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  Pioneers Living With Married Couple

  by msecodo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so ... situation:.

  a baptized married couple, with no privileges that we know of, have opened their home to 2 unmarried regular pioneers because of the pioneers' financial issues (limited income).. - husband works from home.

  - wife doesn't work and stays home or in service.

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  Drearyweather

  The wife and I were talking and found out that this situation existed for about 1-2 months ... THEN, the elders met with the pioneers (not the couple) and told them to leave the house or they would no longer be pioneers. No reason given but Hebrews 13:17 read about obeying the elders.

  If Elders give no reason, the pioneers don't need to get out of the house. If the Elders decide to remove them as pioneers, they will have to give a reason and inform the pioneer why they have decided to delete. The Pioneer can go all the way to the branch office for this.

  I think the rumors could be true. Such a thing has happened in our local cong too.