we want people to learn ttatt.
we have numerous resources online to draw jws in so that they will wake up.
however, i've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop.
However, I've noted some radical methods that have been used by fellow exjws, and quite frankly, this must stop
Most of these radical methods are just to vent their anger on the JW's and not an attempt to reason with them.
Shouting at JW near carts, Protesting near KH's and Bethels, etc. may make an ex-JW feel good and may give him a way to vent his anger. But he needs to remember that instead of waking up a JW, he will have pushed ten more doubting JW's back deeper into the cult.
thumbs-up gesture doesn’t covey much if we see only four fingers closed and thumb standing upward.
but if we look for the implied meaning, then it is a positive, informal signal indicating a job well done, and saying ‘keep it up.’.
similarly, biblical accounts don’t convey much if we see them as mere accounts.
Yeah, but none of them are as effective or parsimonious as a simple Fuck Off is.
True. They are as effective as the JW cart witnessing.
thumbs-up gesture doesn’t covey much if we see only four fingers closed and thumb standing upward.
but if we look for the implied meaning, then it is a positive, informal signal indicating a job well done, and saying ‘keep it up.’.
similarly, biblical accounts don’t convey much if we see them as mere accounts.
Thanks Cofty, that was a rare compliment from you.
thumbs-up gesture doesn’t covey much if we see only four fingers closed and thumb standing upward.
but if we look for the implied meaning, then it is a positive, informal signal indicating a job well done, and saying ‘keep it up.’.
similarly, biblical accounts don’t convey much if we see them as mere accounts.
Cofty who is treating you equally to everyone else who spouts new-age nonsense.
Really? by using profanities like "fuck off"?
Dropping the F bomb in the middle of a conversation just shows how socially ignorant and rash a person can be. Using cuss words does no help to the topic being discussed other than hurting other person's sensitivities. There are a million words in the English vocabulary which a person can use to express himself rather than taking the lazy short cut of using profanities.
If you are angry that someone doesn't want to believe or doesn't agree with what you say, just leave the discussion. No one is under obligation to win an argument.
many people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.
in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).
it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.
The entire discussion is like a group of people from the 9th Century discussing whether humans can travel from one continent to another in less than a day. Science of that day had not progressed and still had 10 more centuries to go before airplanes were invented that made this a reality.
Gravity, the planets and galaxies have always existed from billions of years, however, were proved and explained much recently by Science.
So the question that I have is, Does God not exist because we have no proof of his existence? or, is it that science has not progressed yet to explain his existence? Can we tell that God may exist, but science cannot prove his existence? as in science was not in a position to accurately explain gravity in the 5th century BC, but that didn't mean that Gravity did not exist then.
wednesday, november 22 .
draw close to god, and he will draw close to you.—jas.
by continuing to ponder over spiritual things, we will maintain our enthusiasm for the truth.
punkofnice, True, we can come up with that point.
However, I was trying to know exactly what do we mean when we say that God should communicate with us. (assuming for the sake of discussing that God exists)
What do you had in mind when you said "had god communicated properly"? What would have constituted a proper comunication?
If you were God,, how would you have done it? ie.e Giving freedom of choice to people and ensuring that people don;t harm each other with the choice
In the above scenario, What would you have done in the beginning (billions of years ago) that would have ensured that this scenario that I gave above would not have come...
I know I am being silly...
wednesday, november 22 .
draw close to god, and he will draw close to you.—jas.
by continuing to ponder over spiritual things, we will maintain our enthusiasm for the truth.
, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE for a "loving" God to NOT convince people beyond all doubt that he exists then proceed to destroy them for not believing in him!
Just for the sake of discussion. If you were Jehovah, how would you have communicated with humans whom you created? For e.g. lets take a situation:
A man habituated to drugs and alcohol regularly beats his wife and children. He has also committed a murder. The wife of the man prays to you to help her in improving her husband so that she will get to live a happy married life with the one whom she loved years back. While, The wife of the murdered victim prays to you that justice be served and a life sentence be given to the man. How will you answer both the prayers in a way that convinces both of them and which serves as a tangible proof to others that you have answered their prayers.
i was walking out of the store and i passed a former jw associate of 20+ years.
"keith"he was an elder, got df'd, lost his wife, got reinstated and last i heard started pioneering!so i see him as i'm walking to my parking spot.. i stop, look him straight in the face and yell from 20 feet away, "you're in a cult.
you're in a cult, dude!".
Your friend must have recalled the Biblical story of Shimei yelling and cursing at David, where David just ignored him and walked away
world headquarters of jehovah's witnesses - warwick, new york.
“yes, the end of this system is so very near!
is that no reason to increase our activity?… reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service.
the Watchtower Society build this enormous facility out in the boondocks at the expense of the all Witnesses who truly believed that the system of things was close
Interestingly, the entire current GB are the ones who were already baptized and were pioneering as average Jw's during 1975. The youngest Mark Sanderson was baptised one year later than you in 1975.
the article says that the dead chickens are given to the poor but i was told that the chickens are thrown into the garbage.
(who could possibly eat a chicken full of sin?).
https://www.google.com/amp/abc7ny.com/amp/religion/exclusive-dead-chickens-in-cages-as-part-of-jewish-ritual/2457387/.
How can a dead chicken atone for your sins?
If man can evolve from an ape, why can't a chicken atone for his sins?
