"Why does a heavenly organisation need earthly headquarters buildings?
Because the followers live on earth.
Drearyweather
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Warwick and Similar Properties
by Lost in the fog ina comment from a friend's page.
"why does a heavenly organisation need earthly headquarters buildings?
surely jesus said that god is a spirit and should be worshipped in spirit and truth?
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How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!
by Bad_Wolf inthis is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
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Drearyweather
Bad wolf: Have yet to see one on a person who is born in, who then has their parents and or children shun them, and not because they CHOOSE TO, but because the WT tells them they can't even text, email, or social media, because if they do, then jesus will hate them and kill them in armageddon.
Badwolf, I think this case matches what you need. Correct me as I have not read all documents of case:
Janice PAUL, a/k/a/ Janice Perez, Plaintiff-Appellant,
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WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF NEW YORK, INC.,Defendants-Appellee.
https://openjurist.org/819/f2d/875
This was a case where in June 1987, the United States Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit upheld the Witnesses' right to shun those who fail to live by the group's standards and doctrines, upholding the ruling of a lower court.
Janice Paul was raised as a JW and she disassociated when she was 24.
Upset by her shunning by her former friends and co-religionists, Paul, a resident of Alaska, brought suit in Washington State Superior Court alleging common law torts of defamation, invasion of privacy, fraud, and outrageous conduct. She claims in essence that the practice of shunning invades interests that the state does or should protect through its tort law.
Following was the courts judgment:
The members of the Church Paul decided to abandon have concluded that they no longer want to associate with her. We hold that they are free to make that choice. The Jehovah's Witnesses' practice of shunning is protected under the first amendment of the United States Constitution and therefore under the provisions of the Washington state constitution.
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Hey Governing Body, if you're not too busy.....
by The Fall Guy in.....can you clarify one of your doctrines for me?.
re chap.
27 p. 178 par.
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Drearyweather
So let me get this straight: you're saying that myriads of God's angels did an impersonation of Usain Bolt and ran off in the other direction when confronted by lil' ol' Satan???
The answer to your question is in the Revelation climax book, Chapter 27, Para 23
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Enlighten me If you can
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inconfusing standards or hodge podge?.
what is this about beards i never got the hang of from day one?
are beards ok or not?.
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Drearyweather
Zindagi - So any elders or co's about can you explain what principle is being applied to all three?
Zindagi, Why don't you ask the elders in your congregation, after all they are the ones who have taken the decisions?
By the way, I think you are from a congregation in India. Because such disorders happen in India more often.
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2018 Service Year Report - Released on jw.org
by Drearyweather in2018 service year report of jehovah’s witnesses worldwide.
see details of the global preaching work of jehovah’s witnesses from september 2017 to august 2018.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2018-service-year-report/.
average publishers preaching each month: 8,360,594 (2017 - 8,248,982).
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steve - BTW, up until the 2016 Service Year report, percentages were based on average numbers for that year for each country - since 2017, percentages are based on peak numbers for each country’s previous years peak numbers.
Hi Steve,
As per my calculations, it seems that even now the percentages for each country is based on average publishers and not peak publishers.
For e.g.
While New Zealand peak publishers grew by 1%, the yearbook shows % growth as 0%.
The peak publishers in India grew by 3%, but the yearbook mentions the growth as 4%.
Worldwide peak publishers grew by 1.5%, but in the yearbook they have mentioned % growth as 1.4%.
Hence, they still calculate the growth in terms of average publishers.
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2018 Service Year Report - Released on jw.org
by Drearyweather in2018 service year report of jehovah’s witnesses worldwide.
see details of the global preaching work of jehovah’s witnesses from september 2017 to august 2018.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2018-service-year-report/.
average publishers preaching each month: 8,360,594 (2017 - 8,248,982).
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2018 Service Year Report of Jehovah’s Witnesses Worldwide
See details of the global preaching work of Jehovah’s Witnesses from September 2017 to August 2018.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2018-service-year-report/
2018 Grand Totals
Branches of Jehovah’s Witnesses: 87 (2017 - 90)
Number of Lands Reporting: 240 (2017 - 240)
Total Congregations: 119,954 (2017 - 120,053)
Worldwide Memorial Attendance: 20,329,317 (2017 - 20,175,477)
Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 19,521 (2017 - 18,564)
Peak of Publishers *: 8,579,909 (2017 - 8,457,107)
Average Publishers Preaching Each Month: 8,360,594 (2017 - 8,248,982)
Percentage of Increase Over 2017: 1.4 (2017 - 1.4)
Total Number Baptized *: 281,744 (2017 - 284,212)
Average Pioneer * Publishers Each Month: 1,267,808 (2017 - 1,249,946)
Average Auxiliary Pioneer Publishers Each Month: 446,642 (2017 - 439,571)
Total Hours Spent in Field: 2,074,655,497 (2017 - 2,046,000,202)
Average Bible Studies * Each Month: 10,079,709 (2017 - 10,071,524)
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Do you know who wrote ...
by vienne indo you know who wrote the 1959 watchtower book jehovah's witnesses in the divine purpose?
anyone?.
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Drearyweather
Hi Vienne,
Harry Peloyan joined bethel in 1957 while this book was released in 1959. I am not sure that he would be given the job to write this major historical 320 page book just within 2 years of joining Bethel.
Barbara Anderson in one of her posts mentioned that John Wischuk wrote this book
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/242276/kingdom-proclaimers-book-who-wrote-this-pile-sht
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Russian gunman raised in JW family
by Alex Bogdanov inthe link bellow is sort of ok. i could not find a decent article in english language about this, but russian media is exploding.
2 days ago a teenager killed 19 people and injured dozens and committed suicide.
he was raised in a jw family.
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There was a Russian JW who was found with WW 2 souvenirs - Orphan Crow
Seems that it belonged to the unbelieving husband of a JW woman:
Editors note: In written comments, Jehovah's Witnesses' spokesperson Jarrod Lopes said that the explosives seized in the raid were World War II relics that belonged to the husband of a Jehovah's Witness who is not a member of the group himself.
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Rough Draft Chapter from our Next Book
by vienne ina few of you follow our research into watch tower history.
i've posted a rough draft of a chapter from upcoming volume 2 of separate identity.
on-point comments are welcome.
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Drearyweather
Strange.
I found that June 1882 information in the book written by Hudson, Bible Students in Britain - A Story of a Hundred Years.
Or maybe, June 1882 was a group meeting (sort of informal), and 1883 it was organized or recognized as a class (congregation)?
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Rough Draft Chapter from our Next Book
by vienne ina few of you follow our research into watch tower history.
i've posted a rough draft of a chapter from upcoming volume 2 of separate identity.
on-point comments are welcome.
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Drearyweather
Hello Vienne,
The information you have collected is astounding. Since my interest lies in History, I wanted to confirm one detail that you have mentioned under the column "Glasgow/Scotland":
Albert Hudson, editor of Bible Study Monthly, a British Bible Student publication, says that the first organized meetings were in Glasgow starting in 1883. He presents no other details
However, I found some information mentioned by AO Hudson - when I was going through in the following link :
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/history/british%20history.htm
Now, in June 1882, little more than six months after the distribution of the booklet in this country, a dozen people in Glasgow, chiefly men folk, commenced to hold a regular meeting for the study and discussion of the Bible in this light. This was the first Bible Students’ meeting in this country, so far as records and recollection can tell. Rather appropriately, perhaps, it was a humble beginning. The organizer and leader of this initial meeting was apparently a man in a lowly walk of life—his name is lost to history—...
I am not sure but wanted to confirm from you which of the dates is accurate: 1882 or 1883.