Posts by Drearyweather

  • Anders Andersen
    9

    Restrictions imposed by the government that affect our activities should be followed. —Rom. 13:1.

    by Anders Andersen in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    in their covid19 related instructions watchtower writes:.

    restrictions imposed by the government that affect our activities should be followed.

    what changed?

    1. tiki
    2. Italiancalipso
    3. MeanMrMustard
  • Drearyweather
    Drearyweather

    Following are the differences:

    1. COVID-19 restrictions are put on everyone, Russian ban is only on JW's.

    2. COVID-19 restrictions are restrictions, Russian restrictions are more than that- it's the criminalization of a faith.

    3. During COVID, you can meet, preach and sing on Zoom or online, but in Russia, even doing that can being criminal charges.

    4. COVID is a restriction on your physical activity. not faith; the Russian ban is the opposite.

    Restrictions make sense to follow or not when they are imposed on everyone indiscriminately, but if they are imposed on only one person or only one group,or on one activity, then that becomes discrimination.

    the Russian ban on JW's doesn't make sense, when other groups equally or more dangerous are allowed to remain legal.

    People here wholeheartedly supported the COVID lockdown, but do you remember how people here got angry when governments started allowing churches to open up, when other group activities were still restricted? That's what I am talking about.

  • carla
    13

    Letter writing question

    by carla in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    so the jw's are no longer goind d2d but instead are writing letters- my question is what return address are they putting on the letters?

    their own or the kh?

    the kh's in our area have no mailbox and therefore no mail can be delivered or returned to a kh.. thanks in advance!.

    1. Ding
    2. VIII
    3. LongHairGal
  • Drearyweather
    Drearyweather

    own personal address

  • Listener
    36

    Watchtower August 2020 Are they introducing new light?

    by Listener in
    1. watchtower
    2. bible

    the latest watchtower is now out and they make this statement -.

    7 during the thousand year rule of christ, all of jehovah’s earthly children will have to make changes to please him.

    so all of them will have true fellow feeling as they help the resurrected ones to combat sinful tendencies and to live by jehovah’s standards.

    1. Vanderhoven7
    2. Vidiot
    3. Finkelstein
  • Drearyweather
    Drearyweather

    It seems that this sentence uses the term God's children in a casual way, as cofty told, rather than alluding it to the anointed ones.

    This term is also used in the songbook, Song "Life Everlasting is Promised"

    Paradise brought to perfection;

    All of God’s children set free.

    Under Jehovah’s direction,

    Peace on earth we will see


    It has also been used in the Watchtower for the JW's living now. For e.g. w15 9/15, "As God’s children, we feel truly loved because Jehovah has promised us a wonderful future. That gives genuine meaning and purpose to our life."

  • joey jojo
    20

    Bible canon conundrums

    by joey jojo in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    this is a topic that i find really interesting- how the bible, in particular, the new testament was compiled and how the jw organisation strives to negate, scoff at and diminish the influence of the catholic church in its development.. here is the official stance of the org: .

    https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/library/r1/lp-e/all-publications/watchtower/the-watchtower-1963/april-15.

    'the roman catholic church claims responsibility for the decision as to which books should be included in the canon, and reference is made to the councils of hippo (a.d. 393) and carthage (a.d. 397), where catalogues of books were formulated.

    1. Drearyweather
    2. EverApostate
    3. Vidiot
  • Drearyweather
    Drearyweather

    Joey, Thanks for bringing the point about the word 'Catholic'. I agree with you that the word has been used even before the Roman Catholic Church came into existence. I agree with you on that one.

    The word Catholic comes from the Greek word, katholikos which means 'whole'. Ignatius used this word in 107 AD. In fact, the form of the word katholikos also appears in the Bible in Acts 9:31: "ekklesia kath holos".

    Luke and Ignatius used the word katholikos or a form of it to indicate all the churches across the world or what we call as the universal church, or the congregations of the first century, based on what you translate it.

    At that time, this name had nothing to do with the Roman Catholic Church, even though it was later used for its formation. In fact, many Christian groups have taken names or form of names from the Scriptures for their denominations and have tied them back to their origins.

    Regarding the canon, I don't believe that Roman Catholic Church compiled the canon of the NT. These books were already considered as canonical and used by the early Christian Church of the first and second centuries before heretical people like Marcion came up with their lists.

    FF Bruce, writes in his essay, The Canon of the New Testament:

    "One thing must be emphatically stated. The New Testament books did not become authoritative for the Church because they were formally included in a canonical list; on the contrary, the Church included them in her canon because she already regarded them as divinely inspired, recognizing their innate worth and general apostolic authority, direct or indirect. The first ecclesiastical councils to classify the canonical books were both held in North Africa — at Hippo Regius in 393 and at Carthage in 397 — but what these councils did was not to impose something new upon the Christian communities but to codify what was already the general practice of those communities."