I agree with stan.
What happened in that thread was a minor misunderstanding, which got cleared up later. Such things are bound to happen and will happen with public forums such as this site.
whilst i have never quite understood whether petra and atlantis are one or multiple entities i recognise the value of their work and web of contacts.
i think it is fair to say that no-one has consistently contributed more solid gold intelligence to this site.
no one has reliably passed on more bomb shells and solid news as well as day to day minutiae.
I agree with stan.
What happened in that thread was a minor misunderstanding, which got cleared up later. Such things are bound to happen and will happen with public forums such as this site.
watchtower examination has a youtube video about subliminal images drawn by the watchtower's art department.
i'm not a professional artist but i see too many strange and hidden images in this drawing.
i have boxed four examples of hidden images.
Two men flagrantly celebrating the crucifixion event with public sodomy is as shocking as it gets.
The image from the 1927 book Creation is actually an 1890 painting by Max Klinger, the German painter, and not the work of a WT artist.
watchtower examination has a youtube video about subliminal images drawn by the watchtower's art department.
i'm not a professional artist but i see too many strange and hidden images in this drawing.
i have boxed four examples of hidden images.
A few years back I had a discussion with a friend from the art department who was one of those asked to leave bethel during the budget cuts. When I spoke about subliminal art, he laughed it off saying that what we see are the brush strokes of a tired, over-worked painter, who has done his 19th editing of the image. Adding something subliminal would not even occur for an artist working at WT.
I don't believe this hidden message crap. what will WT achieve by adding these to their publications? What is the message that they are trying to convey? Since some of these images are from the 70's and 80's, did Fred Franz say something about it, since he was in the GB? Would an average JW have the mental skill and the time to find these hidden messages, among all the constant drumming he has to go through. If it is intended for a few people, then it doesn't make sense to publish it in a public WT.
To discredit the WT, we need to look for the obvious visible flaws, which we have in abundance, and not subliminal images.
Brushstrokes create patterns, and patterns may create anomalies, which are quite prevalent in the graphic artist's world.
this topics get a great deal of discussion here.
what i find interesting is even some of my pimi family is embracing the reality that all is not well with jw.org and that many current jws are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org.
wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of jw.org in the not distant future?
Two things that will never happen:
1. The end of the world, as predicted by the WT
2. The end of the WT, as predicted by Ex-Jw's
today, marking the second anniversary of the australian national apology to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse, the prime minister of australia has announce in federal parliament the intention to place sanctions against the jehovah’s witnesses in relation to child sexual abuse.. quote from prime minister:.
the royal commission [into institutional response to child sexual abuse], the [national] apology [to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse] and these yearly reports are about accountability: bringing the truth into the light ... we still have, reprehensibly, four institutions that have been named publicly and that have blatantly refused to join the redress scheme.
they are jehovah's witnesses ... it's not acceptable.
Sorry, I'm not much versed with Australian law and economy.
Losing charitable status vs. joining national redress scheme
Which one is more financially damaging?
do you think they feel bad for us!
envy us or basically don’t give a 💩?
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What do JW's think of those like us that have left?
The same that we think about Anthony Morris III
the wainui-o-mata hall is closing and from 01 february they will be relocated to the 200 seater hall in newlands.
johnsonville is merging with the wellington west congregation and will be known at wellington central also to be located in the newlands hall.
wellington east will remain in the hall in kilbirnie at this stage but rumour has it that this hall will also be sold and they will make up the third congregation sharing the newlands hall.
With Covid our cong of 120 has between 40 and 60 attendees with about 20 with their screens turned off
Are these the total attendees, or the number of screens on zoom? as multiple people attend through one zoom link.
petra/atlantis recently posted and supplied a document on donations.
what stood out to me, besides the usual nonsense, was the phrase, “donations in support of kingdom interests worldwide.”.
this appears to be a change in terminology from donations in support of the “worldwide work of jehovah’s witnesses.”.
All the contributions are now combined into one.
Now there are no separate:
WWW
LCE
KHCW
GAA
etc...
But just one - Donations in Support of Kingdom Interests Worldwide
yup - person has done nothing wrong.
but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?
if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.
Anna Marina,
Something in the story is not adding up.
So you said that this person has been questioning the WT doctrine for many years, doesn't want to listen to the elders, and doesn't want to come to a judicial committee. Then why is he still a JW? Why has he not disassociated himself yet?
If he's worried about people shunning him or losing his family, then why is he openly doing things that can risk his expulsion?
What does he actually want?
You can't be a JW and question their doctrine, and still expect to remain a JW, without any repercussions.
Also, he needs to remember that elders are not the ones who have framed the WT policies. They are simply security guards with handguns who are authorized to shoot you down if you are found suspicious.
yup - person has done nothing wrong.
but they have called a judicial and from what i can tell refusing to wear a facemask is bothering them more than the person not turning up.. so is this new light?
if you have been called to a judical please remember to stay safe and wear your personal protective equimpment.
I hope this is just a joke.
No in-person judicial committees are held during this pandemic, only on Zoom that too only if the branch approves it.