Posts by Drearyweather

Biahi, Have you reported or turned in a Field Service Report in the last 6 months? If yes, then you will be counted. If no, you are tagged as an inactive publisher and are not counted anywhere.

In the Analysis report that is submitted every September, only those publishers are counted who have reported at least once in the last 6 months.

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Watchtower Disparages the Bible

by Vanderhoven7 in

i'm looking for wts quotations that contrast with ii timothy 3:15-16 whereby they downplay scripture.. here is one from way back..

"...people cannot see the divine plan in studying the bible by itself...if he then lays them [scripture studies] aside and ignores them and goes to the bible alone, though he has understood his bible for ten years, our experience shows that within two years he goes into darkness.

on the other hand, if he had merely read the scripture studies with their references, and had not read a page of the bible, as such, he would be in the light at the end of the two years, because he would have the light of the scriptures," (watchtower, sept. 15, 1910, p. 298).

Drearyweather

Do Jehovah's Witnesses believe that people can be saved and sanctified through reading and studying the Bible alone without knowing anything about the Watchtower organization?

Don't know about the JW's, but there are instances in the Bible where people did not understand the Christian teaching by reading the Bible alone, and needed additional help:

1. Ethiopian eunuch: He did not understand what he was reading from Isaiah, so Philip had to help him

2. Appollos: Did not understand the scriptures better,so Aquilla and Priscilla had to explain it to him.

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Can non JWs be witnesses in a committee meeting?

by mickbobcat in

i am not sure but i know where non jws have been brought in for a witness to a judicial meeting.

what is the official policy on this?

Drearyweather

Current direction SFL, Chapter 12, Para 40:

The testimony of unbelievers and disfellowshipped or disassociated ones may also be considered, but it must be weighed carefully.

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Watchtower January 2022 The Memorial

by Listener in

next years memorial article focuses on the two class system that they promote.. interestingly, they mention how the anointed are in two covenants.

the new covenant and the kingdom covenant.

they claim that both of these covenants opened up the way for a small number to become kings and priests in heaven.

Drearyweather

Revelation 20:6:

Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection;+ over these the second death+ has no authority,+ but they will be priests+ of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years

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New Media Center

by asp59 in

ii wonder if you are a jw how new media center goes along with this text.. 1 corinthians 3:6-9new international version.

6 i planted the seed,(a) apollos watered it, but god has been making it grow.

paulus planted.

Drearyweather

The point mentioned by Morris is not something new, they mentioned it in 2011 Annual meeting too when they launched the Warwick HQ project. This is what Guy Pierce said:

“Has the Governing Body changed its mind about the closeness of the great tribulation?” asked Brother Pierce. “Not at all,” he answered. “If the great tribulation interrupts our plans, that will be wonderful, absolutely wonderful!”

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20120815/A-Meeting-Marked-by-Unity-and-Thrilling-Plans/

and the point about these facilities being used in the NEw World was also made long back in 2006 the video "Jehovah's Witnesses - Organised to share the good news:

"To that end, the building of branch facilities,...in the new world...it may be that many of these fine facilities will continue to be used as centers of education."

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WT UK admit they are a building company

by Splash in

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03858051.

they have registered their business at companies house under business code 41100 - development of building projects.. opening their latest full accounts filing it says on page 4 under principle funding sources:.

”the society currently has two funding sources, one of them being the construction of new facilities or places of worship, which is invoiced at cost to other charities with similar aims”.

Drearyweather

The religious arm of the WT in the UK is still named the "International Bible Students Association"

Nature of business (SIC)

94910 - Activities of religious organisations

INTERNATIONAL BIBLE STUDENTS ASSOCIATION

Company number 00136726

Nature of business (SIC)

94910 - Activities of religious organisations

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WT'S memory loss, minimizing the "memorial",

by waton in

for those still interested in wt maneuvers, this past week's wt study re: ransom.

after the talking snake and consequences part: .

"john wrote more about the ransom" then others.

Drearyweather

How about chapter 6, where partaking of the symbolic flesh and blood is a prerequisite for getting to enjoy the benefit of the payment

A few questions:

1. When Jesus uttered the words in John 6, was Jesus referring to the symbolic eating and drinking of the bread and wine at the Lord's evening meal? There was a gap of one year between the events of John 6 and the institution of the memorial.

2. If Jesus included everyone in "anyone who partakes", then why did he institute the memorial with only his 11 apostles? Is there an indication that he invited everyone, and only his 11 apostles turned up?

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the herd of elephants in today's wt study.

by waton in

for friends of "truth" about the wt theme: "what do we learn from jesus' last words?

if you learned anything, even in the greatest distress you do not utter the sacred name.

the article is full of "jehovahs" but not once did jesus himself actually use the term.

Drearyweather

Hi waton, thanks for the explanation.

However, it is difficult for me to follow the thought. I am not sure if the sanctity of a name lessens by the mere frequency of its usage when it itself appears more than 6,800 times in the Hebrew text. In the Psalms alone it appears about 700 times. In fact, in the Hallel, which is sung by Jews, it appears 60 times.

The Hallel even contains a verse, "Blessed is the one who comes in the name of Jehovah", which people sang when welcoming Jesus in Jerusalem. In fact, many verses in Psalms show the importance of knowing the name, trusting the name, and taking refuge in the name.

The crown jewels are the private property of the queen which remains at her disposal, and she decided how to use it and we respect. The creator himself included the name about 6,800 times in the scriptures and has asked people to read it daily. Why would he do so, if he wanted no one to use it?

All of this makes me skeptical of the opinion that Jesus never used the divine name.

How he addressed the creator in his prayers differs from prayer to prayer. Sometimes, he used Abba, sometimes as Father, during his death he said My God. I don't feel this establishes any pattern for us, just shows his personal endearment with his creator. He never addressed Mary as 'Mother', rather he addressed her as 'Woman', and we don't establish any pattern from it either.

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the herd of elephants in today's wt study.

by waton in

for friends of "truth" about the wt theme: "what do we learn from jesus' last words?

if you learned anything, even in the greatest distress you do not utter the sacred name.

the article is full of "jehovahs" but not once did jesus himself actually use the term.

Drearyweather

so our prayers should go to the father, ever mindful of the immensity of his person, his might embodied in his name, but not use it. if at all sparingly.

How do you decide if you are overusing the divine name or underusing, or using it right?