Posts by Drearyweather

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How many different "rules" do Jehovah's Witnesses have to obey? Can you count them?

by Balaamsass2 in

all the big changes for jws since this last fall brought me back to this site, and got me and the wife talking.

just how many things were we not allowed to do growing up as jehovah's witnesses?

we were so used to all the rules, customs, and traditions, that we became used to them.. one site i found claims there are 141 unique rules!!

Drearyweather

92. Do suggestive and immodest dancing in a public place
98. Wear revealing clothes
95. Use of bad language (curse words) is discouraged

Many decent people, apart from JW's don't do the above three.

Just a list of a lot of repetitive stuff, for e.g.:

10. Say the Pledge of Allegiance 11. Salute the flag 12. Vote 13. Run for leadership in their organization. (JW's are 'appointed' and invited to be leaders.) 14. Run for leadership in any organization 15. Take a stand for any political issue inside their organization 16. Take a stand on any political or 'worldly' issue outside of their organization 17. Campaign for a political candidate 18. Hold political office 19. Discuss politics. 113. Believe in ghosts 114. Witchcraft 115. Black magic 116. White magic 117. Consult with a psychic or become one 118. Study tarot cards, get a reading or give a reading 119. Study numerology or get a reading 120. Dabble in ESP (extrasensory perception), dowsing, or divination

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Money Is The Answer For Everything - Eccl. 10: 19 (NASB)

by Sea Breeze in

do jehovahs witnesses believe eccl.

10: 19 is literal or is limited in application in some way?

money is the answer for everything - eccl.

Drearyweather

These are some of the explanations from JW literature on this verse:

Dining with friends can be most enjoyable, but to obtain bread or wine, you need money. Since money is the means by which material things are obtained, it “meets a response in all things.”

Yes, a good meal may be enjoyable. But neither food nor drink can be obtained without money. In this world, money is a necessity. It is a valuable asset that must be managed wisely.

Eating, along with pleasant conversation, can be most enjoyable. But bread cannot be obtained without money, and there is limited rejoicing from drinking wine when a person has very little for life’s necessities. In this present system, money is the means by which all material things can be obtained and, therefore, it “meets a response in all things.” The thought behind Solomon’s statement may be that through industriousness a man can get the money he needs for bread and wine, for the comforts that add to the enjoyment of life.

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Where is Tony?

by Athanasius in

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on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

Drearyweather

what about his sons and their wives? Has anybody heard what may have happened to them? Has there been any recent sightings of the Morris brothers?

One of his sons, Paul is in the Service Committee, while the other, Jesse, is a member of the US Branch Committee.

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Hailstone message AND everyone will be saved? Questions

by slimboyfat in

i’ve not been paying close attention to watchtower developments, but talking to a jw yesterday it occurred to me the society (yes, still use that term - old school) have been sending out mixed messages in recent years.

from what i gather, a few years ago the gb announced that during the great tribulation jws would be required to preach a “hailstone message of judgement” which involved telling people it was too late for them to repent and they were definitely going to be destroyed.

there were hints that this could be very soon, “any day now” preaching could stop and the hailstone message come in, kind of thing.

Drearyweather

What have they done with the idea of the “hailstone message”? Have they given it a new interpretation, abandoned the idea, or just ignored what they said previously?

It was answered in the Annual meeting by Geoffrey Jackson in his talk - “Trust in the Merciful ‘Judge of All the Earth.’” - Part 2

What is “the end” referred to there? Well, it’s the final part of the great tribulation. So that means that during the great tribulation, the good news of the Kingdom will still be preached. And it’s still good news to us but not to the rest of the world. That good news will become more hard-hitting as time goes on, causing people to make a decision one way or the other, whether they accept the Kingdom or not.

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"Mark" Sanderson one-ups Jackson's goatee

by neat blue dog in

not sure if this was posted yet but the second gb member has been spotted with more than a mustache, and the first one going for a full beard (at about 3 minutes into the video):.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcgwkgrkh0k&pp=ygujancgymvhcmrz.

Drearyweather

How can we be sure not deep fakes like the Jackson’s goatee turned out to be?

Jackson's goatee is real. He is in India for a headquarters visit and he has that goatee, I got to see him in person in the special program. The Writing Committee helper who has come along has a full beard too.

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JW profit from disasters

by enoughisenough in

some time back i questioned about jw making money from doing relief work for disasters.

i found this story on reddit and also noted some of the replies.

it makes me wonder how many would have left their own jobs and paid their way, giving free labor and some supplying free materials if they had know what was going on behind the scenes.

Drearyweather

I am not sure how it happens in US, but during the 2004 Tsunami, the WT in India built and repaired around 350 houses of JW's in the affected area, and almost none of them had homeowner insurance as it's not a popular form of Insurance here in India. I know because I coordinated the relief efforts during that time and was on the committee that had oversight.

During COVID, Angola, Zimbabwe and Venezuela were provided with relief in the same way.

I am not sure of Wt actually makes any "profit" out of disasters - whatever that means, unless there are actual numbers to prove.

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Waiting On Jehovah First Mentioned?

by Ron.W. in

yes, waiting on jehovah for him to handle a problem/ doctrine etc.. when did the jw's first start saying that?

they've been saying it as long as i can remember.. what scriptures do they trot out to back that teaching up?

?.

Drearyweather

Joseph waiting in prison for Jehovah to get him out after the cupbearer who was released forgot about him.

Micah waiting for Jehovah to correct the matters during the rule of the unfaithful and wicked King Ahaz - “I will show a waiting attitude for the God of my salvation. My God will hear me.”

Psalmist saying that he will wait for Jehovah to correct his opposers: May those who are resisting me

Be put to shame and perish.

May those seeking my calamity

Be covered with disgrace and humiliation

But as for me, I will continue to wait;

I will add to your praise.

Jesus asking his followers to have a waiting attitude. “Let your loins be girded and your lamps be burning, and you yourselves be like men waiting for their master when he returns from the marriage, so that at his arriving and knocking they may at once open to him. Happy are those slaves whom the master on arriving finds watching!

Peter asking his readers to have that attitude: “Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion, awaiting and keeping close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah!”

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2024 Regional convention

by ElderBerry in

can anyone answer the question about the regional convention?

has there been 2024 all three days convention released yet?

videos and all?.

Drearyweather

This clip is not "from the last weekend" as he says, but from the last year's 2023 "Exercise Patience" Regional Convention - Last talk of Friday afternoon session, given by the branch representative.

The speaker in the convention is simply explaining Matt 25:31 and saying that Jesus will sit on his judgement throne to separate the sheep and the goats in the future, and not in 1914 as once thought.

The creator of the video is just getting confused with the semantics about Jesus becoming king in 1914 vs. sitting on his judgement throne in the future during the great tribulation.

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