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Welcome to all the Newbies in the last six months

by smiddy in

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i think all of us on this forum would like to welcome all the newbies that have joined in the last six months or so ,if i`m not mistaken there seems to be an influx lately.. elders , ms ,and sisters.

speak up and make a comment , are you happy you came here ?.

we`d love to here from you.. smiddy.

Sorry

Thanks Smiddy! Hello everyone! I'll just take this chance to formally introduce myself.

I am 18 and currently baptised. I had my doubts, and my parents told me I should only do it when I'm ready. However, they kept applying pressure on me and asking me why I don't do enough and when am I finally going to take the truth seriously. So, I just decided to get dipped. After a whole year of shoving my thoughts down, I couldn't ignore it any longer and decided to do research. I stumbled across jwfacts.com and the rest is history. After learning TTATT, I began dating a great guy. He's helped me battle my depression and my suicidal thoughts, but he can't do as much as he'd like due to my strict, diehard JW parents.

I have plans to save money, get a car, and move out. Then move to a different area and start my fade (which wont be easy since my parents will try to get their way in the process). I am currently at university obtaining my bachelor's in Marketing, my area has a huge demand for them (being a JW prepared me for at least one thing in life lol).

Any questions or comments, just pm me. I love everyone!

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Survey: Are you Agnostic or Atheist or Christian?

by Iamallcool in

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i am agnostic.

i will count how many agnostics, atheists and christians that are reading this forum regularly.

please answer my question.

Sorry

At this time I'm my life, I'm agnostic. But I always have my mind open.

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Question for those that have been Disfellowshiped for apostasy VS succesfully fading

by NikL in

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there are quite a few here who have been disfellowshipped for apostasy.. then there are those that have successfully faded.. why the different outcome?

are the ones that got df more out spoken?

or does the discrepancy lie with the elders?.

Sorry

My best friend's uncle started his fade 10 years ago. He just stopped attending meetings all together. The elders were on him for a good year and a half, but he wouldn't even give them an inch. He always made excuses and used the same "If I need anything, you'd be the first one I'd call." Then he claimed he had super long hours at work (which wasn't a lie) and was depressed. After a while,they just gave up. His family doesn't shun him at all, but the rumor mill at the congregation made him a social pariah.

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black dog comes to visit

by zeb in

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dear friends,.

once again my depression has got the better of me and i must bow out for a time.. "the angels sang glory to god in the highest and on earth peace unto men of goodwill'.

so if that means at this special time of the year then have a happy and safe christmas time all of you.. hugs.

Sorry

Take care zeb. Will never forget your words of kindness to me in my anxiety and depression thread. If you need any help or someone to talk to, we're here.

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JW Apprentice in Hair Salon.

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

my hairdresser warned me that he had taken on a jw apprentice and asked me what i thought.

she attends the kh that disfellowhipped me.

i told him that i would have to be careful about what i said concerning my personal life as she would report back anything she heard to the elders.

Sorry

The hypocrisy is astounding. We all know those JW's who live for snitching to the elders. Had a couple of them in our old congregation during high school. And they wondered why they were an outcast at school AND at the hall lol.

And sorry if I sound slow (haven't been here too long), but are you officially df, da or were you reinstated only to fade again? Because if you were df'd or da'd (like your name implies), why are you worried about what's she reporting to the elders? Screw her and her self righteousness.

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Elder wants to stop by with the CO for a visit .

by NikL in

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so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.

he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".

he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.

Sorry

Based off of the experiences in my own hall, the elder will more likely than not just leave you alone, especially if you're "bad association". A man in our Cong has been inactive for nearly a decade, his wife has periods where she isn't super active and her fs dwindles. Thanks to his wife's blabbermouth and constant complaints about their situation, the family's reputation is in the gutter as far as the local JWs are concerned. Even then, the elders always make a call to the wife whenever her fs slows down. After all this time and the rumors about him, they don't even look his way anymore. They gave up. She complains about that too.

Nik, if this elder is friendly with you, chances are they are actually there for your wife. Since you haven't done anything, I wouldn't worry about it.

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Do any of the governing body of JWs exercise their conscience?

by Half banana in

the members of the governing body, by being at the reins of a large corporation, must be confronted with situations which force them to think about the validity of their doctrines.. the australian royal commission hearing must have highlighted for the gb, especially jackson, the rational inconsistency of using an iron age dictum of "two witnesses" in a world which has moved beyond such rough justice.

today we have a scientific approach, we examine forensically, we have psychologists who can tell us about individual's minds and behaviour.

today, children's voices are not ignored.. the first and last resort of jws and their leaders is the doctrine of the "inerrancy of the bible".

Sorry

No. The GB are old egomaniacs that are out of touch with reality. And how could they not? They've had infinite power over the lives of 8 million people for decades. The lower ranks has them completely gassed up, and as a result, they remove anyone who has the slightest criticism. Maybe they did have a conscience once upon a time, but it's definitely withered away after all this time.

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Living with Your Parents Well Into Adulthood the Norm?

by Sorry in

i don't want to seem like a jerk.

i know full well economic times are not the greatest.

there's no shame in struggling and staying with your family until you're back on your feet.

Sorry

Thank you all for your responses. Like most of you have said, economic times are tough, and I agree there's no shame with asking for help. However, I can't help but feel for Witnesses who are up in age and are solely dependent on their parents.

The three daughters I mentioned in the OP have lived with their parents their whole lives. The eldest is 42 and has never been married or had kids. Whenever I'm in service with her, she brags about living simply, having all her expenses taken care of and spending all her days in field service. She keeps telling me I should never move out. Her parents are in their mid to late 70s, what will the girls do when their parents pass? Makes me sad because they are actually nice people. I can't imagine being 42 and never being on your own or the only bill you've ever paid was your car insurance.

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Living with Your Parents Well Into Adulthood the Norm?

by Sorry in

i don't want to seem like a jerk.

i know full well economic times are not the greatest.

there's no shame in struggling and staying with your family until you're back on your feet.

Sorry

I don't want to seem like a jerk. I know full well economic times are not the greatest. There's no shame in struggling and staying with your family until you're back on your feet. However, I notice that, at least in my congregation as well as neighboring ones, that the adult children still stay with their parents infinitely. It's even encouraged. Especially the women. Three girls, all daughters of an elder, all live with their parents. The youngest one is 33. All work part time jobs with the bare minimum hours, and devote majority of the time auxiliary pioneering. They seem to have no plans on moving out. Similar to a brother, 29, brown-nosing to become a MS. He seemed to become more independent, then abruptly quit his job to pioneer full time and reach out. He tells the teens with parents in the truth to just stay at home and pioneer. "Why get a job when Jehovah will bless you for putting him first?" he says.

I personally believe you should stay with your parents until you're financially stable. Not the best idea to move out barely graduated from high school with little money resources. However, staying with your parents into your 30s and 40s isn't right either, especially if you're not even willing to obtain employment. I pray that is only my area and personal experience and not everywhere JW. Seems you never leave your parents unless you get married or they die. If you willingly leave on your own and get a job, you're the crazy one.

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WELL BEARDS ARE STILL A NO NO!!!!!!

by DwainBowman in

well beards are still a no no!!!!!!.

in a new letter from the branch/gb nut's, beards are not acceptable in the us branch area!!!!!!.

my eldub brother in law, shared this today.

Sorry

Welp, if that article a couple of weeks ago wasn't indication enough, now it's obvious. One thing I will give them credit for, at least they were straightforward this time. None of that passive aggressive "conscience matter" crap.

All the child abuse cases, and the Society is worried about some damn facial hair...