I remembers years ago watchtower magazine they said that most of does abandoning or getting df come back too org. That's straight lying. I don't trust GB in anything anymore. They told us everything was done with donations. Come too find out they get money from government.
Hellothere
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Even with recent changes it’s a struggle to get people to attend
by hoser inthe kingdom hall is still empty.
even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.
the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.
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Hellothere
"And they talk to you like you're 6" They talk down to members like they are dumb 6 year old slaves 😁. Zero respect for members dignity.
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2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).
number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).
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Hellothere
I remember back in the 80s how everyone was looking forward too yearly report. Elders would go up too podium, all excited, and read the report. Rest of congregation could point out different numbers in report they thought interesting. Watchtower pointed to report saying it showed how blessed org was. I don't see any blessings in today's report. It's either same as other groups or worse. Where's the proof of blessings? They been moving forward in Africa. All groups doing that. Birthrate in some places in Africa is super high. Been told by African JWs that if father in family becomes a JW, rest of family must also. Either they believe teachings or not. It's a culture thing.
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2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).
number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).
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Hellothere
From what I'm reading in Reddit. People's experiences. Seems like most JW family's have either one pimo or pomo. Or more. I been thinking for years how many true belivers this religion has. I don't think they in the majority. Remove shunning DF policy and hell gonna break lose in JW land. They gonna have very few elders or ms too keep congregations going. -
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2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).
number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).
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Hellothere
When you google country's in list. Government statistics in surveys they make. Their population. It's totally different then what the watchtower report states. If they made mistakes in population in country's they make report of. Then what else can they have made mistakes on?
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Where’s the 2023 Service Report?
by slimboyfat inwhat’s keeping them?
this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.
maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….
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Hellothere
Recommend going in to Reddit and reading testimony from hundreds or thousands of young JWs that hate the religion. Only reason they still in is obligation from parents and shunning arrangement. Don't even know what this discussion is about. 2 billions hours preaching and 1% increase. It's ridiculous. Feel bad for young people feeling miserable just so watchtower can keep numbers afloat. Baptizing young people should be banned. -
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Well we all know reason for numbers not plummeting last decade is DF arrangement and JWs having children. The interesting part is the increase of "anoited". Could it be lot's of people visiting halls memorial time don't have a grasp of JW teachings? Maeby even JWs that invite this people don't have knowledge about what org teaches. Or maeby it's ex JWs pranking organisation. Other possibility could be lots of jws having mental problems. Wouldn't doubt the stress and fear mongering watchtower does on it's members must take a toll on mental health. If so then there's a serious mental risk for anyone being a JW.
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Where’s the 2023 Service Report?
by slimboyfat inwhat’s keeping them?
this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.
maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….
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Hellothere
Only reason there's no major plummeting is JWs having children. And DF arrangements. JW statistic is like sitting at funeral thinking who is gonna die next. Only worth noticing is the increase of partakers at memorial. I don't really why. Is it cause many JWs or people they invite too meetings don't have a grasp about jw teachings? Who can participate or not. Or is it ex jws that participate too disturb numbers.
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Even with recent changes it’s a struggle to get people to attend
by hoser inthe kingdom hall is still empty.
even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.
the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.
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Hellothere
Who knows why parking is full. Maeby some event nearby and people used kingdom hall parking. Family used both cars. Congregation merged. Annual report said its was -1 increase in the USA. So you have in black and white things are bad for Watchtower.
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Has there been a change in how society counts publishers?
by Hellothere injust made a fast check on yearly watchtower report.
bulgaria numbers 2022 was +1.
for 2023 they + 4. uruguay for 2022.
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Hellothere
"pandemics, immigration, emigration, JWs fading or being DF’ed or dying in higher or lower numbers". Yeah feels like yearly report last 20 years have been fluctuating for does reason and not because of any significant growth. Maeby they put a end to yearly report soon. There's nothing really "exciting" about it. Just a cooperation still surviving.