i grew up in the org and never got baptised, however i was wondering recently about how much money my family and old friends are wasting in all that.
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i remember of course never talking in amounts, that it was important to give from what you can not what you have etc but i admit i have no clue how much the average witness gives (say in % of their income).. i'm sure it varies greatly, i'd love to hear what you guys have to say..
It has been a while that I did the administration. Automatic contributions would vary from 20 euro up to a weighty 180 euro (200 dollar) each month! A few years ago (while I was still in) one elder privately expressed his concern regarding the congregation's income if the old 180-euro-brother would die. I know this brother indeed has died very recently.
Of course there is always someone's will...don't know how much the WT will benefit from his death.
hi, i'd like to update my bio as it currently shows "none" but the update profile button isn't clickable.
halp?
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Also solved! Thanks Simon.
after much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.
midnight..
I respect your choice, good luck.
"Nothing that eliminates them from being God's directed people"?? Hmm... lying maybe? Including "proof" that we are living in the last days? Will you lie for the GB about that? Really?
Also remember that the bigger 1500y journey of the Israelites was a miserable one, filled with blood, wars, betrayal, politics, corruption, riots, imprisonment, exile and the rejection of Christ.
after we heard some time ago that before the time of russel there was no "faitful slave" or no anointed ones who formed a faitful slave class, now we learn that we dont know if before russel there were not "faitful ones" or "anointed".
indeed jackson says that we know the bible teaches that throughout the history there would be a large number of "sons of the kingdom" ..or anointed ones.. beginning from this month in several projects including a film about christian bible translators who gave an example of "faithfulness" and "discretness" in translating the bible, the christian bibletranslators and missionionaries who used "jehovah" by the way are receiving ultimate praise of the governing body, in the first place at the moment is shown the video about tyndale, wo so is very much supposedly a "faithful one" and perhaps even "anointed" because he loved the bible.. jackson says that those early missionaries of the christendom already "preached the message" before russell.
january broadcast.
Haven't watched it but with now even more anointed before Russell, wouldn't the 144,000 already have been sealed before the days of the modern day org? I know the whole thing is already a mess with the rising number of partakers, but hypothetically speaking...
as baptized or unbaptised witnesses, no one ever discussed or even mentioned (at least in my jw experience) this topic: .
"we are preaching about the good news of the kingdom.
why do we preach about only one hope - living on earth?
Good point! Since the "new light" about two classes, the heavenly hope is only for those who are selected by Jehovah from already baptised witnesses. Any new biblestudent already claiming to be an anointed would be distrusted and viewed as unbalanced, too emotional, too puffed up, maybe even demonized by Babylon's unclean false doctrines, such as devote, passionate South-American style Catholicism.They already have too many "kings and priests", they only need more money from the other sheep, so why mention the heavenly hope more than absolute necessary?
it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.
most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.
there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.
And to think soms have said there is no unity among ex-JW's...I'm touched by what is happening here on this forum! Keep up this good life saving work. ILTTATT2!
my husband and i recently moved back to our hometown so we are back on the radar for the elders.
we have been happily inactive the last few years.
the other day a brother, who was once friends with my husband, and a substitute circuit overseer stopped in my husband's work for a shepherding visit if they still call it that.
When did it become acceptable to go to one's workplace and engage in a half hour conversation with your tablet in hand discussing scriptures?
Not. What happened to the good old
"I know you’re working, so I’ll be very brief.” (km 3/12 p. 2 par. 4)
http://www.businessinsider.com/10-reasons-2016-is-the-best-time-to-be-alive-2016-8/#1-there-are-much-fewer-hungry-people-in-the-world-1.
is the world getting better?.
in which century would you rather have been born, given the choice?
Now = wow!
the un has banned religion.
what are you're thoughts?.
also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.
A believer, I don't know about the UN, but what about the ARC? Will they trigger the fulfillment of biblical prophecy in 2017?
*** w08 6/15 p. 9 par. 10 Things From Which We Must Flee ***
Today, billions of humans are involved in various forms of false religion that can be traced back to ancient Babylon. (Gen. 11:6-9) Collectively, those religions are designated as “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” (Rev. 17:5) False religion has a long history of supporting the political rulers of this world. Among “the disgusting things” that she bears responsibility for are the many wars that have resulted in hundreds of millions being “slaughtered on the earth.” (Rev. 18:24) Additional “disgusting things” include acts of pedophilia and other forms of sexual immorality committed by clergymen and tolerated by the church authorities. Is it any wonder that Jehovah God will soon rid this earth of false religion?—Rev. 18:8.
you're not likely to see this in an awake!
magazine, but here goes.
for those that believe in intelligent design please explain this one to me:.
Intriguing stuff pale.emperor!
Two thoughts come to my mind...
According to Christians who embrace biblical doctrine as the final authority, the fall leading to imperfection may have caused degradation, harmful changes/mutations. A very, very cruel concept of course and what a bizarre intention to make it last for 6000+ friggin' years! But hey, who am I? A worm...
From an intelligent design perspective,the identity of the intelligence is unknown, It could be a god/gods, a spirit creature (angel, demon, unknown) or an alien as well. If (seeded) life would have been left on earth long ago (on purpose or by accident), degradation might as well have taken place. Seeking design patterns that indicate intelligence however do not necessarily adress the problem/objection of morality. It would be like saying that the nazi's couldn't have built the V2 because they've killed so many people in concentration camps.
