Posts by QC

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

QC

@ tornapart

Thanks for your insights.

We are pretty much in agreemant.

'birth' of the kingdom as being from when Jesus was resurrected to heaven

Yes, he was installed on the throne as king, in 33 CE

The 'woman' arrayed with sun, moon and stars (see Joseph's dream in Gen 37:9, 10) as Israel

Yes, spiritual Israel, New Jerusalem Re 3:12; Re 21:2

"Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. Ga 4:26
"[Abraham] was looking for the city which has foundations, whose architect and builder is God" Hb 11:10
"If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed" Ga 3:29

The 1,260 days in the wilderness as the time open until the gentiles came in. (Rev 12)

Yes, the "woman fled into... wilderness...a place made ready by God... nourishing her a thousand two hundred sixty days" Re 12:6
ummm... Gentile Cornelius 36 CE, 3? 2 years after Jesus resurrected in 33 CE, (1260 days = 42 months, is 3? 2 years) Re 12:6

Satan was ousted from heaven before Jesus ascended, then began to wage war with the holy ones

yes, in 33 CE:
Lu 10:18 "I (Jesus) was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning. 19 Behold, I have given you authority to tread on" serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you."

"serpent cast out of his mouth... a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood." Re 12:15 ummm... a flood of both Roman and Jewish persecution

"the earth helped the woman... earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out." Re 12:16
ummm... The flood of Roman and Jewish persecution was neutralized when Pentecost spirit launched the Christian Church with rapid growth so that 3? 2 years after Jesus death rapid Gentile growth began (36 CE) .

Michael the archangel as NOT being Christ.

Yes

archangels, the word 'an' indicates there is more than one

Yes

This sheds light on how those "born anew" (all true Christians) are part of spiritual Israel; in fact, the spiritual heavenly temple perimeters reach earth encompassing all earthly “born anew.”

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

QC

@BCat

Yeah, I have it on a back burner too. That and the "New Jerusalem" assembly relative to the "woman's seed" with Abel being the first piece in the assembly. Still thinking it through.

I saw some of your research on it.

Thanks for helping.

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

QC

@DD

Well, no one can know the day or the hour.

Never said we do

WW3 could happen, but that is no reason to expect the " end."

Wrong.

GLOBAL nukes is the end of planet civilization, either direct carnage or by destabilization (ecological and economical).

The nukes chain-reaction is: US, Russia, France, Britain, China, N Korea, Israel, Iran, India, and Pakistan (NATO sharing nukes: Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, Italy, Turkey; access to nukes: Japan, S. Africa)

And, Jesus and the Father will not allow nuclear war to destroy the earth,

Hol Rv 11:18 “time has come to destroy those who destroy the earth."

We won't need to guess whether or not the GT has started

Yes, we won't need to guess.

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Bobcat, give me your take on this

by QC in

bcat, looks like jesus is not michael.

i just shared this with new member "lost".

if this is correct it's another big eye opener for the jw r&f.

QC

Thanks guys. I'm sure there will more clarity. Give it a bit more time.

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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite

by cantleave in

the european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.

so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.

btw, god sisn't show herself!.

QC

@EP

I like to play games

I'm not interested in playing games.

This thread is for learning, not going round and round with a bluster and puffery inferiority complex.

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I need some serious advice...

by confusedteenager in

jw
friends

i'm almost a year out of high school and of course, i'm not in college.

i'm a pioneer (sigh) with little to no work experience and having a really hard time finding any work.

i want to go back to college, but it's going to be difficult now that i'm a pioneer, and my parents cannot really afford the loans that will incur should i pursue going to college.

QC

Best way to flip the work dynamic in your favor quickly, in this economy, is to narrow focus on being multilingual. First I would do Spanish, then Chinese (or some other combination that captivates you). Then do college Spanish with immersion in a Spanish congo (pioneer) with an eye on college Chinese.

Don’t get sidetracked and you are job golden (instead of you look’n for jobs, jobs will be look’n for you). And, parents will love it. Plus you won’t be into a curriculum morass that wastes your time, and money.

By 25 you will be financially beyond your peers.

That's what I would do. Just imagine you were thrown into one of these cultures and HAD to learn their language.

Sounds like fun.

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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite

by cantleave in

the european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.

so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.

btw, god sisn't show herself!.

QC

RELATIVITY —c ontant smooth motion is LIKE sitting still.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30KfPtHec4s

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I need some serious advice...

by confusedteenager in

jw
friends

i'm almost a year out of high school and of course, i'm not in college.

i'm a pioneer (sigh) with little to no work experience and having a really hard time finding any work.

i want to go back to college, but it's going to be difficult now that i'm a pioneer, and my parents cannot really afford the loans that will incur should i pursue going to college.

QC

First thing is, get your mental state correct.

Just because JWs are wrong doesn't mean the Bible is wrong.

Protect your investment in workable Bible knowledge.

Because of computers and the Internet you can figure out where JWs went wrong.

Rinse out the toxic JW dogma, replace it with truth. (Not another religious denomination)

(Great resources: JWN post, Wikipedia, CERN science, history, YouTube, etc.)

Talk to x-JWs who have made the transition (not x-JW angry, atheist, 4 th century xians, etc.)

I'm available any time to direct you to great information.

God's spirit will become more powerful, now that you are closer to truth.

Find ways to stir (tactfully) your family to the truths you have learned.

Mental clarity will give you positive energy which employers will sense, and like.

Transfer your natural skills to the work place e.g. customer service, typing, sales, receptionist, etc.

Slowly fade from the JW routine (this should be easy as others are doing the same thing)

Read: Gentile Times Reconsidered, download item #9

Different translations http://bible.cc/job/38-1.htm,

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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite

by cantleave in

the european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.

so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.

btw, god sisn't show herself!.

QC

Science disagrees with YOU.

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Interesting Findings from the ESA Plank Satellite

by cantleave in

the european space agency has produced a fascinating map of the universe using the super dooper plank satelite.. by stripping out dust emissions and radio frequencies from the milky way galaxy and more distant objects to leave just the afterglow of the big bang, an image of the microwave radiation (measured over a 15 month period) has been obtained that gives an extremely precise picture of the universe just 380,000 years after the big bang.. what we have learned from this data is the universe is some 80 million years older than we thought, the universe is made up of slightly more ordinary matter than was previously thought - 4.9% of all matter, up from 4.5% - and that there is less dark energy (which cosmologists don't understand) than previously thought and also it has an axis of evil (it appears the early universe was assymetrical) and a cold spot!!.

so we need to go back to the drawing board with regard to inflation theory to account for the asymmetry and cold spot.. this is why i love science, the more we learn, the more we have to learn.

btw, god sisn't show herself!.

QC

The Greatest Second in the Universe, Steps Down the Creation Path, Mystery of Antimatter, Particle Trails

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_MFhAoUUmQ&list=TLlydxKY2YCKs