Hi Cedars.
Welcome back.
hi folks.
i'm just curious as to whether anyone is experiencing any repercussions following the "human apostates" talk on the saturday of the district convention?.
my relatives will be attending soon, which makes me anxious.
Hi Cedars.
Welcome back.
ok i started another thread and every one jumped on me because i was trying to take the theory of evolution out of the mix and most here seem to believe in it so i will just say it.
the theory of major evolution is crap!
the theory is falling apart.
Crazy,
Great post!
Two situations happening that are fascinating to watch:
When will JWs in total finally get it?
When will the Dawkin's crowd in total finally get it?
Think about the x-dubs that experience this double whammy!
i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.
he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.
finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?
The evidence for God's existence is a done deal.
As Paul put it, “For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.”
Your question should be:
What is going on with those who fail to see what Paul saw in the "creation of the world"?
Especially since we now (today) know and understand the many spectacular nuances of the cosmos Big Bang creation, as well as, the DNA instructions that orchestrate life.
All this has greater gravitas because, we now know (documented) Evolution theory with its abiogenesis fantasy is done (stick a fork in it) over!
Watch for discussions.
i received the following explanation in favor of the date of 607 bce.
accepted comments on the points at issue.. .
conclusion.
@TJ
I don't believe in 607. . . I only want arguments to contradict this information that I received
Become an expert. You need Scriptural, secular 539 B.C. history, and the ARCHEOLOGY records. Slam dunk!, download item #9 Gentile Times Reconsidered.
Then if you have questions you have sharp shooter here for help.
Keep it simple. lol
Oh, sorry BCat and AnnOMaly, I was distracted. Too many irons in the fire.
on an old thread (10 yrs) i found an interesting comment by aguest.. satan was hurled down from heaven to go and wage war with the remaining ones of her 'seed'.. he doesn't know who is a 'seed' unless and until such a one exposes oneself.. so 'his' war is against all of mankind and his tactic is to use mankind against one another.. .
we are supposed to have tender affection and brotherly love for one another,.
no matter what race, religion, sex, status etc.. the account of the good samaritan taught us that.. .
That BORG organization is clearly evil. In fact, none of the churches of Christendom and pagandom (including Atheism) are salvageable.
But there are individuals in the BORG, Christendom and pagandom that can flee and find a favor with God. That’s providing they clean themselves up with the "waters of truth" (feeding on God's Word) and the "spirit of righteousness" (becoming new spiritual personalities in the "image" of Jesus, thus members of Jesus' family "sons of God.")
There is a polarization occurring, the “righteous” are becoming more righteous, the “evil” are becoming more evil. Dan 12:4,10 This is exactly the way it was in Noah’s day.
There’s Peter and then there’s Paul, people progress at different rates. So, it’s best not to be too judgmental of JWs or any member of Christendom, etc.
We know there will be a “great multitude” of survivors with God’s favor.
so here you are...sitting with a couple of elders at judicial meeting, and you're asked the following question:.
"do you still believe that the fds is the channel that jehovah is using"?.
now is it possible to answer 'no' without being df, or how would you answer that question?.
When you are dealing with "evil" e.g. a Nazi looking to kill Jews (you won't show him Jews), so it is with JC "evil" looking to perform character assignations in order to perpetuate a false agenda intent on misleading information.
Their abuse must be avoided.
NASB Mt 10:16 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves.”
So, when dealing with a devious element, someone trying trap you so they can do you harm, it's ok to be shrewd (clever with speech so no one is able to leverage a scam to do you harm).
in his upcomming book, "how jesus became god" bart ehrman has a new view on how paul viewed jesus.
since i am a huge bart ehrman fan i am a member of his blog site, http://ehrmanblog.org link to direct blog entry: http://ehrmanblog.org/pauls-view-of-jesus-as-an-angel-for-members/.
there he made a recent blog entry where he argues that paul viewed jesus to be an angel according to galations 4:14. .
"Your premises are wrong and so are your dates. Religous history and Biblical analysis is complicated"
I know, why should you have to explain a 4 th century”trinity Rianti” predilection, or any other fanciful self-illusion.
‘It’s all so “complicated” keep going until you find someone in the library, they’ll agree with me, they’ll explain it to you.’
Keep deluding yourself.
Bible understanding comes with a configuration of the heart, “the pure of heart see God.” It does not come with scholarship or a college degree.
when a jw goes from door to door on a daily basis, they are called pioneers and it is a good thing.. it is an act of love when they share their knowledge with householders.. .
however, if that pioneer learns more about the watchtower society's beliefs when compared with the bible and tries to share that knowledge with current members he is attacking his brothers and sisters and is mentally diseased.. when he shares his knowledge about the watchtower society's involvement with the un and other political entities with the brothers and sisters it is called an act of hate.. in both instances, we have similar actions and motivations but the watchtower society comes to completely different conclusions.. does it have anything to do with control or is it related to something else?.
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It's "evil". Exactly like Judas, no desire to always stand up for truth. Standing up for truth alway is true Christianity.
in his upcomming book, "how jesus became god" bart ehrman has a new view on how paul viewed jesus.
since i am a huge bart ehrman fan i am a member of his blog site, http://ehrmanblog.org link to direct blog entry: http://ehrmanblog.org/pauls-view-of-jesus-as-an-angel-for-members/.
there he made a recent blog entry where he argues that paul viewed jesus to be an angel according to galations 4:14. .
@mP
"Its a fact that Mark 13(???) is a record of the destruction of the temple of Jerusalem"
That’s partially correct, i.e. Mark 13, Mat 24, Luk 21, have Jesus’ PROPHECY of Jerusalem’s destruction. This prophecy is then FULFILLED in 70 A.D.
That’s an important distinction. And, why you as a Jew should believe your fabulous Bible, NT and OT.
Usually your posts get no response from me because your “facts” are ALWAYS the artful practice of spewing malicious propaganda.
in his upcomming book, "how jesus became god" bart ehrman has a new view on how paul viewed jesus.
since i am a huge bart ehrman fan i am a member of his blog site, http://ehrmanblog.org link to direct blog entry: http://ehrmanblog.org/pauls-view-of-jesus-as-an-angel-for-members/.
there he made a recent blog entry where he argues that paul viewed jesus to be an angel according to galations 4:14. .
@DMason
"Paul could not have read the Gospels since they were written after his death"
I found this tidbit:
Gospel John
Attention must be given to John 5:2 where John uses "is" rather than "was" concerning the pool near the Sheep Gate. This places the Gospel John to be written a time before 70 A.D. when Jerusalem was destroyed.
YLT Jn 5:2 and there is in Jerusalem by the sheep-gate a pool that is called in Hebrew Bethesda, having five porches,