Next get a pint of:
Graeter's Black Raspberry w/Chocolate Chip
chase with a perfectly ripe peach
i just had a bowl of ice cream - chocolate trinity.
it was heavenly.
earlier, i had a perfectly ripe summer plum.
Next get a pint of:
Graeter's Black Raspberry w/Chocolate Chip
chase with a perfectly ripe peach
i've been reading coc and rf highlights that luke 21:28 says: "but as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.".
i'm thinking on how no one who saw the start of these things is alive from 1914. as a comparison point, does anyone know when the wt suggests the last days started in the first century?.
was it when jesus said the above?.
YOU ARE OFF TOPIC, last comment:
guts that burst then manage to also hang themselves
It's the other way around, hangings that manage to burst their guts is plausible: Stressed out people (like Judas) hanging themselves hastily (unsecured properly) swinging in time (putrefied) can fall splattering guts.
Jewish nicknames having Greek, Roman or Persian influence is common in Hebrew history.
Gospels are a collage. Primarily they complement each other adding details as well as emphasis. This ASYMMETRY is how you know it’s genuine (not measured, CAN'T MAKE IT UP).
NO COLLUSION.
I’m done discussing this.
STOP DISRESPECTING THIS THREAD!
One more distraction from you and I'll file a complaint.
i've been reading coc and rf highlights that luke 21:28 says: "but as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.".
i'm thinking on how no one who saw the start of these things is alive from 1914. as a comparison point, does anyone know when the wt suggests the last days started in the first century?.
was it when jesus said the above?.
Detail c oloring from different angles is refreshing, shows authenticity, no collusion.
Both are true, different time frames.
Matthew 27:5
Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself.
Acts 1:18
Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.
The Bible is clever, attracts stumbling (fault finders) or truth seekers.
Thanks for sharing to illustrate this point, even though your rant is off topic (improper).
i've been reading coc and rf highlights that luke 21:28 says: "but as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.".
i'm thinking on how no one who saw the start of these things is alive from 1914. as a comparison point, does anyone know when the wt suggests the last days started in the first century?.
was it when jesus said the above?.
Sap,
greater frquency of major deadly earthquakes
We're in agreement. Here's another graph from ANSS: 1900-2011
Between 1900 and 2011 earthquakes increased almost 60%, now that’s a impressive number! Some people claim this is high because the lack of earthquake measurement tools. The USGS and ANSS graphs are exactly the opposite of each other..Earthquakes and natural disasters have been increasing over time and it’s not getting any better but lets hope for the best!
While most of the people knows USGS, ANSS (Advanced National Seismic System), which first 80 ANSS strong motion instruments were installed in San Francisco (40), Salt Lake City (20) and Seattle (20) in 2000, is widely unknown from general public; however this organization also produce lots of datas, maps and lists compiled in catalogs for seismologists and earthquake engineers, for teachers and the general public as well.
Here's another:
i've been reading coc and rf highlights that luke 21:28 says: "but as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.".
i'm thinking on how no one who saw the start of these things is alive from 1914. as a comparison point, does anyone know when the wt suggests the last days started in the first century?.
was it when jesus said the above?.
i've been reading coc and rf highlights that luke 21:28 says: "but as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.".
i'm thinking on how no one who saw the start of these things is alive from 1914. as a comparison point, does anyone know when the wt suggests the last days started in the first century?.
was it when jesus said the above?.
I'm thinking on how no one who saw the start of these things is alive from 1914.
100 years fits the Noachian model. So, it's people BORN (not old enough to understand) in that window (100 years) are the ones (the generation) still living when the end comes, REALIZING 'we are seeing the end of the world.'
There is a noticable contrast between the "evil" (false prophets) and the "faithful" with understanding. Dn 12:10
i've been reading coc and rf highlights that luke 21:28 says: "but as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift your heads up, because your deliverance is getting near.".
i'm thinking on how no one who saw the start of these things is alive from 1914. as a comparison point, does anyone know when the wt suggests the last days started in the first century?.
was it when jesus said the above?.
We know Jesus Olivet prophecy (synoptic) reaches beyond the first century because the conditions (e.g. 'worst tribulation ever, nor will occur again'; as well as Jesus' 2 nd arrival where 'the entire world will see him.' Mt 24:30; Rv 1:7 didn't happen in the 1 st century as well as some of the Scripture precursor particulars below.
Mt 24 YLT
3 And when he is sitting on the mount of the Olives, the disciples came near to him by himself, saying, 'Tell us, when shall these be? and what is the sign of thy presence, and of the full end of the age?'
7 'For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places;
8 Yet all these are the beginning of pangs. CLV
21 for there shall be then great tribulation, such as was not from the beginning of the world till now, no, nor may be.
30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in the heaven; and then shall all the tribes of the earth smite the breast, and they shall see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of the heaven, with power and much glory;
34 Verily I say to you, this generation may not pass away till all these may come to pass.
37 and as the days of Noah--so shall be also the presence of the Son of Man;
45 'Who, then, is the servant, faithful and wise, whom his lord did set over his household, to give them the nourishment in season?
48 'And, if that evil servant may say in his heart, My Lord doth delay to come,
49 and may begin to beat the fellow-servants, and to eat and to drink with the drunken,
Mk 13 AV
8 For nation will rise up against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there will be earthquakes in various places; there will also be famines. These things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.
19 For those days will be a time of tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will.
Lu 21 NASB
10 Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom,
11 and there will be great earthquakes, and in various places plagues and famines; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven.
25 There will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves,
26 men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
32 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all things take place.
IMO nations and kingdoms WWI & WWII , "pangs" woe , Noah's day echo violence, Atheism, 100 yrs , the "evil slave" Mt 24:48-49 and the sharp contrast between the "wicked and wise" Dn 12:10 lead me to believe Mt 24, Lu 21 and Mk 12 ultimate projection is the 21 st century. I live my life accordingly. The JW iteration is part of the "evil slave" event. Those who separate themselves from this "evil" element and diligently seek Biblical truth are aligned as with the "faithful." Because of computers networked around the world, diligence makes Biblical truth available to everyone "faithful."
Jesus began ruling after his resurrection in the 1 st century. But his second arrival is as explained above, I believe.
i was listening to the radio, a religous show.. the speaker started talking about how the holy spirit is the third person of the godhead.. they just assume that everyone understands what a godhead is, and it is a manmade term.
that is what makes their point of view so ridiculous.. is it like a godfoot, godear, god elbow?.
they have their scriptures to link the holy spirit with the trinity, and jws have their scriptures to unlink it, and never they two shall meet.. .
Rat350,
The 4 th century model is impure Christian theology, described here.
It's not pure as 1 st century Christian theology.
JW leadership is like Judas, unfaithful to Jesus (all Jesus’ disciples are of the “anointed”). Plus their manipulation of the name Jehovah is a profanity.
if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.
this is a game changer.
the bomb!.
Cog,
You want to tap dance your way through this Evolution debacle with bluster bluffing that ‘there’s all this evidence.’ Nice try, but unconvincing.
My insisting on you presenting early life evidence to prove the original CORE Evolution hypothesis is proper. Early life SCALE (lab small, easy to assemble and examine) is the ONLY bullet proof way to make your case.
Precambrian strata has produced plentiful soft-tissue fossils and micro-fossils finds; which means it’s fully capable of providing the fossil record time-laps snapshots, micro to macro, proving Evolution. So, lack of time-laps fossils means the theory is incorrect. The spirit of science appreciates when a theory is correct or incorrect. Incorrect simply means there’s a better answer. That's the point!
This better answer allows “original life measurement technologies” to develop capturing the dynamic nature of life emergent properties arising from interacting components etc. Then species-specific variation can be explained by considering this fundamental MEASURE framework. That's how REAL science methodology works.
Evolution is not science; it’s an ideology (an alternate secular world view, a philosophy).
I agree DNA and Epigenetics gets us closer to this framework for understanding and measuring life’s secrets.
Others agree with you on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XJvcJ4_L10&NR=1&feature=endscreen (3 min)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bqQbqpima-c (2 min)
so, now that i am out for good, which bible should i read?
there is no way i will read the wt one..so i still want to have a relationship with god but don't know how to choose a bible.
it is very hard to dewired yourself and ,sometimes i feel that i don't have a relationship with him.the what ifs come and go still.last night i was up all night reading and researching , can't shake off the shock still to know ttatt.
freethink,
I use all translations. NIV is descent usually. Invariably though, all translation will miss the Hebrew and Greek to some degree. It's fun to figure out which comes closest to original sense (not words, but understanding).
This cradle of translations comes with descent commentary:
http://biblehub.com/luke/17-20.htm
It's natural to wonder about other religious groups. Your silver is, although JWs went way wrong, you do have familiarity with the Bible which is an asset. Just as JWs are off on their view of Jesus so is 4th century theology . So, be careful of similar traps.
Bottom line is, INDIVIDUALLY we have access to practicing the original 1st Century Christianity. It takes study diligence. Be a modern Berean. Many of us here at JWN are diligent about Bible understanding. Flag us down anytime.
One of the exciting things you should know is, ALL deciples of Jesus are of the anointed. There are many posts on that subject.
One other thing, you will have to tolerate those intolerant of the Bible and God.