Posts by QC

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god-of-the-gaps. Should we or shouldn't we fiil in the gaps with God?

by KateWild in

science imo does not have all the answers.

when i discover gaps in science, it's easy for me, as a temporary measure to fill in the gaps with god.

i do this until i have learnt something new.. what about you?

QC

cofty, cant, Captain O: Einstein most certainly did NOT believe in god.

Wrong! Einstein didn’t believe in a PERSONAL god, but he did believe there is a god (Spinoza’s God)

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly." —Einstein
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings." —Einstein

He was NOT an atheist.

"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views." —Einstein
"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist.” —Einstein

cofty, cant, jgnat: Filling in the gaps with "god did it" ends inquiry.

Silly argument!

Pagan thinker’s world view felt God is in nature, various aspect of nature represent various Gods (Pantheism). No need to explore or discover.

Christian thinker’s world view is, God is outside of nature. Christians innate curiosity compels them to explore (like the history of explorers), ‘let’s explore and discover God’s creation handiwork.'

Entire MODERN SCIENCE, “the scientific revolution…age of enlightenment”, came out of CHRISTIANITY's inquiring minds, thinkers.

Nicolaus Copernicus (1473–1543)
Michael Servetus (1511–1553)
Ignazio Danti (1536–1586)
Galileo Galilei (1564–1642)
René Descartes (1596–1650)
Juan Lobkowitz (1606–1682)
John Wallis (1616–1703)
Blaise Pascal (1623–1662)
Nicolas Steno (1638–1686)
Isaac Newton (1643–172)
Stephen Hales (1677–1761)
Colin Maclaurin (1698–1746)
Carolus Linnaeus (1707–1778)
Antoine Lavoisier (1743–1794)
Luigi Galvani (1737–1798)
Maria Gaetana Agnesi (1718–1799)
Leonhard Euler (1707–1783)
Alessandro Volta (1745–1827)
Andre Marie Ampere (1775–1836)
Louis Pasteur (1822–1895)
Guglielmo Marconi (1874-1937)
Georges Lemaître (1894–1966)

(Just to name a few)

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my disassociation letter

by unstopableravens in

dear elders at%^** congregation, november 1, 2013. .

as you know ive been a member of your congregation for many years.

throughout the last several years i have had the opportunity to get to know many of you personally and i can truly say i have love for all of you.

QC

Unstop,

I agree Jesus is not Michael.

Lu 10:17 The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.

18 “I[Jesus on Earth c. 30-33 C.E.] was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning.”

19 “Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you.”

Re 12:7 “And there was war in heaven [c. 30-33 C.E.]: Michael [archangel] and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,”

8 “And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.”

9 “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

And, I agree ALL disciple of Jesus are "born anew" into the family of Jesus.

But I can’t go with you to the 4th century.

There is a caveat there.

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Design or Non-Design, finally we know, Darwin's Doubt

by QC in

jw
friends

if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.

this is a game changer.

the bomb!.

QC

Darwin's Doubt review:

“Relying on Lyell's dictum, Meyer asks: What in our common experience is the source of the complex, specified information that is observed in the organic cell? Intelligence is the only source responsible for such information, not an accidental un-intelligent force like blind, Darwinian evolution.

But mind is an "unseen force," materialists argue who, like 19th century phrenologists, yearn for an explanation that they can physically lay their hands on. But gravity is invisible, yet it remains a fundamental part of the scientific edifice precisely because, like intelligence, we constantly witness its effects.”

—New Oxford Review, by Terry Scambray

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Why Eve sinned (WT 8/2013)

by EdenOne in

adamah brought up in another thread an issue i wasn't aware of, and i thought it merged well with something i've been pondering about.

it revolves around the deeper reasons why satan was successful in persuading eve to eat from the forbidden fruit.

why was eve persuaded to disobey god?.

QC

Keeps dementia away in old age, or so I've heard.

Now I understand. Imagination running wild fires neurotransmitters and exercises cerebral muscle, a way to protect your mind from dementia.

I understand, it’s JWN therapy.

OK.

Had me scared for a minute, found myself seeing things cofty’s way.

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Why Eve sinned (WT 8/2013)

by EdenOne in

adamah brought up in another thread an issue i wasn't aware of, and i thought it merged well with something i've been pondering about.

it revolves around the deeper reasons why satan was successful in persuading eve to eat from the forbidden fruit.

why was eve persuaded to disobey god?.

QC

Eden: There simply was no hope, for there was nothing being offered.

The offspring, blood mix of ape/man and Adam and Eve's children, are now offered hope for salvation since they have sin blemish in their blood, true?

So, you've got the blue bloods, Adams direct descendants mixing with the ape/man, breeding children for salvation.

Is that your position?

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Why Eve sinned (WT 8/2013)

by EdenOne in

adamah brought up in another thread an issue i wasn't aware of, and i thought it merged well with something i've been pondering about.

it revolves around the deeper reasons why satan was successful in persuading eve to eat from the forbidden fruit.

why was eve persuaded to disobey god?.

QC

Eden,

Just curious, give me your custom version of an Evolution truth?

Then, how does the ape/man fit in with the messianic theme of the Bible? Where is the ape/man cut off point for salvation?

Seriously.

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Why Eve sinned (WT 8/2013)

by EdenOne in

adamah brought up in another thread an issue i wasn't aware of, and i thought it merged well with something i've been pondering about.

it revolves around the deeper reasons why satan was successful in persuading eve to eat from the forbidden fruit.

why was eve persuaded to disobey god?.

QC

Eden: [Eve] was to become just like the other human beings outside Eden that had evolved over millions of years...not created directly by God.

Now that you believe in everything, Evolution and the Bible, etc., you’re a certifiable kook from the land of Lars.

Your comments hence forth has this hanging cloud.

Serious damage!

Good lesson for x-dubs.

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Did having kids make your decision to leave easier or harder?

by Comatose in

jw
friends

i was thinking about a few things confusedandalone said the other day.

i mirrored his thinking identically.

for me it was having kids that made my decision to leave an easier one.. if i had no children, i might still be in and just going through the motions.

QC

Kate: actually just up and leaving is proving more difficult as they are already indoctrinated and assimilated

No doubt the JW environment is toxic. But it’s wise to take your time transitioning kids to another support system. Kids need structure and boundaries. Most x-dubs ‘released from prison’ make a mistake, they start believing in everything. Inevitably curiosity and freedom leads to bad decisions, and then regrets.

Stirring kids on a path to good information with correct answers is possible. JWN is a helpful resource, just figure out which pro or con augments you find compelling. And, you have access to individuals you prefer to get the sense of a matter.

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Design or Non-Design, finally we know, Darwin's Doubt

by QC in

jw
friends

if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.

this is a game changer.

the bomb!.

QC

cofty: New Homo erectus Skull Shakes up Paleontology

Science magazine:

“This is a fantastic and important discovery, but I don’t think the evidence they have lives up to this broad claim they are making . They say this falsifies that Australopithecus sediba is the ancestor of Homo . The very simple response is, no it doesn’t .”
“What all this screams out for is more and better specimens. We need skeletons, more complete material, so we can look at them from head to toe,” he added. “ Any time a scientist says ‘we’ve got this figured out’ they are probably wrong . It’s not the end of the story.” —Science 18 October 2013: Vol. 342 no. 6156 pp. 326-331 DOI: 10.1126/science.1238484

Senior editor of Nature, the scientific journal:

“We have all seen the canonical parade of apes, each one becoming more human. We know that, as a depiction of evolution, this line-up is tosh (i.e. nonsense). Yet we cling to it. Ideas of what human evolution ought to have been like still colour our debates.” —Henry Gee, editor of Nature (478, page 34, doi:10.1038/478034a),
“No fossil is buried with its birth certificate. That, and the scarcity of fossils, means that it is effectively impossible to link fossils into chains of cause and effect in any valid way… To take a line of fossils and claim that they represent a lineage is not a scientific hypothesis that can be tested, but an assertion that carries the same validity as a bedtime story—amusing, perhaps even instructive, but not scientific.” —Henry Gee, In Search of Deep Time: Beyond the Fossil Record to a New History of Life

The Darwinian Evolution paradigm has never been proven. Its predictions (species graduations form a common ancestry tree), starting with simple cells upward to more complex gradations arriving at modern man, evidence is never found in the fossil record. And, despite a thorough search and evaluation, no materialistic causes or evolutionary mechanisms have demonstrated the power to produce large amounts of specified or functional information (or integrated circuitry) that’s found in the DNA and genome of living cells.

Evolution is the atheist’s philosophical ‘darling’, a materialistic way to explain the cosmos sidestepping the cause-and-effect principle of a beginner (first cause). It’s an elaborate convoluted way of saying (in scientific jargon) that the entire universe happened by chance.

Typically the scientific protocol for any scientific hypothesis is: if its predictions fail ONE time ever, it’s eliminated as a serious scientific theory. If Evolution fails, why does it still exist?

It survives because it has the backing of a powerful secular lobby with tentacles in all the secular institutions (including education). Evolution is secular religious dogma for god antagonist to repeat ad nauseum. And, it sticks. It’s able to constantly reinvent itself because it’s a hedge against fanatical religion (understandably). Proponents have massive faith a scientific miracle will achieve its legitimacy.

This tactic is opposite of how the scientific method works, but circumstances allow it.

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Marriage In The New World

by Cold Steel in

okay, here's the issue.

some people, even some jws, believe that in the new world they will be reunited with their spouses.

jesus, however, said that in the resurrection there would be no marriage or giving in marriage.

QC

Hi blondie,

How are you generating the yellow quote box?