Posts by ElderBerry

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Covid changed everything everybody loved no ministry or meetings and just a good gossip on zoom instead. While the boring meetings are on turn camera off and do something else, then come back during the social parts of zoom.

Now there is a real hard push to get everyone away from zoom but once you have opened that can worms there is no going back.

Its getting cold now in many places and publishers are preferring zoom again but the elders are saying dress warmer and go back out on the doors.

The elders are trying to get away from zoom, but it’s impossible now. If they said no more zoom you would lose the half the congregation that are only staying because of zoom.

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JWLITE

by Teddnzo in

jw
friends

even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

ElderBerry

Field service has absolutely plummeted. This was before non reporting. Saturday morning groups are now like “who is going on first call?” Oh nobody. Ok well let’s meet at Sister so and so for coffee at 11. Everyone is doing ‘calls’ or street work.

JWLITE is actually happening in real time. Even the PIMIs are becoming JWLITE without knowing it.

In our watchtower study today someone said at a birthday party they said no thank you to eating the cake now but they would bring it home and have it later. This sort of thing would have shocked old school PIMIs but JWLITE is becoming the norm.

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Who will be killed at Armageddon?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.

but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.

ElderBerry

There is some confusion over what is the new doctrine now. So Jeffrey Jackson was very sarcastic about the old light that some hoped unbaptised ones would die before Armageddon so they could be resurrected, He said almost shouted in a very loud sarcastic voice “but that’s not fair”

Now I think they are saying we can’t be dogmatic and we don’t know. But we know the old light was wrong. That is the new light. That’s it.

I think they are trying to do damage control as so many JWs are really starting to think about things without just blindly following and it really doesn’t make sense.

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The FDS Photoshop

by Vanderhoven7 in

for those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.

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from the february 2024 watchtower .

ElderBerry

In the first picture they all seem to be listening to Tony, whatever he was saying it sure was interesting .

now they booted him out they make it look like they are all listening to one of the new guys

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JWLITE

by Teddnzo in

jw
friends

even elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.

they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.

i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..

ElderBerry

What would happen if the vast majority slowly becomes JWLITE? Perhaps this is already happening.

To leave entirely is not necessarily the best option, now that the option of staying in JWLITE is on the table.

It would be great if there was a secret code or something that someone could drop into conversation without risking getting called into the back rooms

A code for example “I love the new light at the 2023 AGM about last minute repentance” this could be all you need to say then someone else who decided JWLITE is the best way would say back “yes it’s encouraging how Jehovahs chariot is on the move”

this could be the secret code PIMOs show each other that they are in the know.

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

ElderBerry

I do see many more slowly becoming PIMO JWLITE

just look how many brothers are not bothered about ‘reaching out’

they are lowering the age and other requirements but still so many are saying “no thanks” when elders tell them that they really should be reaching out to be a ministerial servant

To leave entirely is not necessarily the best option, now that the option of staying in JWLITE is on the table.

It would be great if there was a secret code or something that someone could drop into conversation without risking getting called into the back rooms

A code for example “I love the new light at the 2023 AGM about last minute repentance” this could be all you need to say then someone else who decided JWLITE is the best way would say back “yes it’s encouraging how Jehovahs chariot is on the move”

this could be the secret code PIMOs show each other that they are in the know.

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

ElderBerry

The Cypher character in the Matrix is so interesting. He wishes he could go back and take the blue pill as he thought ignorance is bliss. He chose to do his best now for the situation he was in.

This is where JWLITE come in. For many JWs who don’t believe the GB anymore it’s too late and they wish they didn’t get red killed to the GB being wrong, they can’t go back and take the blue pill which would mean carrying on believing the GB were chosen by Jesus in 1919.

Is there a way to take the red pill and live as if you took the blue pill? Yes there is, it’s called JWLITE 👏

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Still no U turn on vax mandates for all schools

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

you still have to be fully vaccinated to attend any theocratic schools.

elders and ministerial servants have their kingdom ministry school every year, the cobe of every congregation has to check that everyone is fully vaccinated.

after the school everyone will ask any bothers who were not there why not?

ElderBerry

Absolutely, we are seeing this all over.

”The U.S. Army is telling unvaccinated former soldiers who were kicked out of the military for refusing to receive a COVID-19 vaccine that they can potentially rejoin the force, as the military

struggles to draw new recruits.”

Miners were given a choice no jab no job. Most refused the toxic jabs and lost their jobs. The mines had to slow down and now begging the unvaxed to come back.

Same with doctors, nurses in fact in the UK anyone in the health industry were given the choice no jab no job. Now they are begging the unvaccinated to come back to work.

Will it be the same with unvaccinated Elders who were not allowed to go to elders schools? Time will tell but we know the GB are stubborn as mules

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

ElderBerry

“When doubts manifest, one of the possible reactions is to double down and dig in. The more you do that, the more sunk the cost gets. “

This is so true with so many things. Those who took the vax multiple times don’t want to take the red pill that it’s harming them, they prefer the blue pill that it is safe for humans.

JWs who have invested years even decades to the Borg don’t want to take the red pill because it’s terrifying. The blue pill is the easy option and even if on a subconscious level they know they are taking the blue pill they lock that away in their brains never to be opened

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Just had a thought…

by Vidiot in

i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

ElderBerry

That is very profound and yes I think on a subconscious level this is the case. They are frightened that the GB are not Gods channel on Earth. Some family members say “so what do they believe now?”