Posts by ElderBerry

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Who will be killed at Armageddon?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.

but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.

ElderBerry

“sick to hear Jeff Jackson mock the old light how stupid it was. This is actually extremely disturbing him saying “we know what you were thinking” some were hoping these ones would die before Armageddon! This is actually really sick when you think about it“

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yes it is disturbing. Who are the current GB mocking themselves or the people stupid enough to have followed them? They are actually ridiculing the old beliefs that if you hoped someone died before Armageddon then you were stupid. But that is still the current official teaching until the new light is released and it still hasn’t been released yet.

Unless someone watched the leaked videos they still trust the GB and hope their loved ones die before Armageddon or they will be killed by Jehovah and have no hope of a resurrection

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Nobody else understands

by ElderBerry in

if you once were fully pimi and truly believed jw doctrine to the core like i once did, when you come to the reality that it is not the truth at all it can be extremely devastating.. i think only other ex jws could ever understand.

i wasted my entire life i thought the real life was yet to come to wasted the best years knocking on doors.

now i’m so angry.. i can understand why so many top themselves when they realise it was all lies..

ElderBerry

SUNK COST FALACY - the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial.

This is true of many things. Should you leave your long time marriage mate, your long time job, should you move to another country, should you change your religion,0?

You can’t be certain it’s more beneficial it’s a huge risk you may regret. Should I stay or should I go. If I stay there will be trouble if I go it will be double

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Where is everyone? 😆

by MissDaSilva in

jw
friends

i had a day off today and needed to get some errands done in my local town.

2 carts have allocated here but i never ever see anyone out, even on very nice days.

70% of the congregation don’t work.

ElderBerry

Yes there are a Vidiot. When you think about it, JWs are some of the best people on Earth. You know they are the most honest and trustworthy people. I know not perfect but Id say the most honest and trustworthy group of any on earth today.

Walking through busy metropolitan areas I see the clothes most people wear today and then I say a load of cart witnessing groups, a few different languages and English cong was there. Made me look and think about those poor misguided souls.

but at the same time I thought they are dressed so presentable and look like such good people

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Where is everyone? 😆

by MissDaSilva in

jw
friends

i had a day off today and needed to get some errands done in my local town.

2 carts have allocated here but i never ever see anyone out, even on very nice days.

70% of the congregation don’t work.

ElderBerry

All the COs are reporting back to Bethel that the love of the greater number has cooled off. It really is only the few die hards still going out door to door. People just are not bothering much with anything in the org anymore.

Hardly any young ones staying, if they do they are just hanging on by a thread.

Hardly any brothers wanting to ‘reach out’ as they call it. This can be seen by the amount of sisters doing microphone and other things just because there are more sisters who meet their requirements than brothers.

I heard a story of a die hard Elder who was asked to move where there were not many appointed brothers. He asked who are the young brothers who I can take under my wing and encourage to do more? They couldn’t even find one.

Saturday mornings are all hybrid zoom meetings and the few who go in person don’t actually do any door knocking.

It’s actually relatively easy to stay in JWlite if you want to stay physically in just so you can keep contact with family and friends.

Why not stay physically in but remain JWlite? Inactive or if you want give a thumbs up every now and then which is all that’s needed to remain an active publisher. But whatever you do don’t waste any time or energy for old men of the GB.

But I do want to be there for good friends who are JWs so that over the next few years as the tower falls we can be there for them to soften the blow as they go through all the stages of grief as the organisation crumbles

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"Vaccines are filthy pus" - said the "faithful slave"

by BoogerMan in

"death after vaccination: rhhe dayton, ohio herald, contains a picture of a beautiful little girl and the following pathetic account of what happened as a result of filling this little one’s veins with filthy pus, in place of the pure blood which god made to circulate there.

" .

from golden age, march 24, 1926. https://jws-library.one/?file=data/1926/g_e_19260324/g_e_19260324.html#bookmark22.

ElderBerry

And to think that quote from 1926 was just a few years after Jesus personally chose these guys to be his chosen leaders of the one true right religion🤩

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Nobody else understands

by ElderBerry in

if you once were fully pimi and truly believed jw doctrine to the core like i once did, when you come to the reality that it is not the truth at all it can be extremely devastating.. i think only other ex jws could ever understand.

i wasted my entire life i thought the real life was yet to come to wasted the best years knocking on doors.

now i’m so angry.. i can understand why so many top themselves when they realise it was all lies..

ElderBerry

Other high control cults would understand to a degree but they are all different.

If you once believed in living forever in paradise and all the other teachings then you don’t mind wasting your life for the watchtower. You don’t realise it’s a way to control you. Then you do feel very bitter once you realise you have been conned.

I feel mostly sorry for very older ones who gave their lives to this lie. It’s probably best for them to carry on believing it. Imagine on your deathbed regret if your wasted life. It would be a much better taking the blue pill and thinking you are instantly going to wake up in the reserection.

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I hate the way they talk.

by Riley in

what is with the jw cadence when they speak.

do they think they are teaching people ?

they sound like pro wrestlers doing promos or shakespearean actors.

ElderBerry

Most churches supported the vaccines maybe not as strongly pushing them as JWs. Only a few said caution when it comes to vaccines. That church the GB were ridiculing went further than just saying caution they actually said avoid the harmful jabs as they are not safe. That church was right the JWs got it wrong and this will be the biggest threat to them.

The GB said it comes down to this, do you believe Jehovah is backing us on this or not?

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I hate the way they talk.

by Riley in

what is with the jw cadence when they speak.

do they think they are teaching people ?

they sound like pro wrestlers doing promos or shakespearean actors.

ElderBerry

I remember the governing body saying that about the church in one of their covid updates. I can remember thinking this is going to come back and bite them.

So that church they were talking about didn’t take the incentives to push the vaccine on their followers and the GB did.

I remember thinking of there is evidence that these vaccines were not safe then than would be it for watchtower.

There is now huge evidence that this church the GB were ridiculing were correct and the GB we’re seriously wrong on this.

That church protected their congregations and the GB harmed everyone who they told to take it

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The ''dreaded'' birthday cake

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | september 2023. study article 39. let mildness be your strength.

11 if a workmate asks, for example, why we do not celebrate birthdays, consider: could he be wondering whether we are allowed to have a good time?

or might he feel that our position will dampen the company’s team spirit?

ElderBerry

One brother said if you are at a birthday event and offered cake, just say can I have it later. Don’t eat it there but have it later is ok..

this is crazy

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Who will be killed at Armageddon?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

if the current doctrine is that only baptised witnesses are going to survive and everyone else burns them what about this new update new light that some from before the flood and sodomites will be resurrected?.

but didn’t he mention at the agm something about there is no point jehovah killing them and then resurrecting them again?

it seems they are confused about what they teach and that’s why brother jackson joked about “is this what we used to believe or what we believe now?”.

ElderBerry

Before the 2023 AGM the doctrine was only baptised would not be killed, Tony Morris said something about maybe we could hope children not old enough to be baptised may just about make it through but only just. Everyone else dies just like the Noah’s ark story.

The big change at 2023 AGM is that we should not be dogmatic and we don’t know. So the big push to get baptised is not so essential anymore.

Particularly now with the largest new light ever in my opinion - You can wait to see if JWs were the truth or not. It doesn’t matter if you are physically in or not until the end comes. If what the GB predict does indeed happen and they are proved correct then you could come back last minute.

This changes everything. It’s probably the most monumental change in the history of the organisation.

Now there is no need to waste your life following the GB and sacrificing so much for them. Just wait to see if they are right.

If there is a cry of peace and security and then all governments ban all religions and all the other events they say are going to happen then start coming back to meetings and take them up on their last minute repentance offer.

By the way I think there is zero chance the GB are who they claim to be and I think they are wrong about all this. They inherited some crazy ideas from the old men who are long since dead and have to try mental gymnastics to escape these crazy ideas.