Posts by ruderedhead

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I am referred here Because you and I are from same life

by unchained1963 in

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a member suggested this i am disassociated 3 years and divorced one with a life of hell marriage and brain washed but worn out fighting to get back that is nothing but a bunch of back stabbing people in that organization, brain washed and taught to divide familys, they want you in but not, its like football with them same type of plays.

i now have found people where i go that doesn't teach love the live this.

i had a abusive marriage, was wife of elder and 3 kids who lived hell because i was to follow the submission of a wife.

ruderedhead

Welcome, Carla! Sounds like you have had a horrible time. I hope things are getting better for you and your daughter now. Hugs to you.

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Moshe received proof of a spiritual afterlife in 1999

by moshe in

i have posted this experience of mine before- it's time to resurrect it again.. in 1999 i was in bed asleep and i had a dream- my father and i were shoping at a clothing store called fazios, that i hadn't been inside since i was a boy (closed for many years).

we were looking at some denim overhalls and in walks my mother and brother ( she died in 1991 and my brother had died five months previously).

they told my dad, it's time to go.

ruderedhead

It's crazy when those things happen! When my father in law passed away a few years ago, my oldest son told me he dreamed that his grandpa had come and told him he was proud of him. It happened at the same time that they said my father in law passed.

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Jehovah doesn't like that

by outsmartthesystem in

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no matter what the situation is.....my children are now on a kick of saying "jehovah doesn't like that".

birthdays?

jehovah doesn't like that.

ruderedhead

That is ridiculous! I hope you will exert your headship, and tell your wife (kindly) that unless she can show you from the Bible where something is wrong, that you do not want her telling your children that Jehovah doesn't like it, when it is actually something SHE does not like. Does she think Jehovah likes it when she does that?

I feel badly for you in your situation, but your poor kids are going to be messed up for a long time if you do not put a stop to this nonsense now. You know that at their ages, they are like little sponges, absorbing everything, and you and Mom are their authority figures, they think you have all the answers. You must refute the wrong things Mom says, without saying Mom is wrong, but showing/explaining to them why you are telling them something different. Children will listen to reason!

And please make sure they are spending as little time as possible with jw relatives that will back up Mom's indoctrination, even if it means foregoing somethings you want to do. They will help mess up your kids, and you can't get back the time lost. Easier to stop it now, than try to undo the damage later. Or perhaps have your children shun you later!

All the best

rudered

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how many of you guys were told it was a cult before joining up?

by rather be in hades in

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this is more for those who were born out and converted personally.

i'm just curious if anyone was told while they were still studying if this was a cult before they got baptized.

ruderedhead

I was told it was a cult when I was studying, but they had an answer for everything, and you had to work a little harder to do research then. Early 80's, small children, going to school part time, little time to look things up in the library. And they were persistent, even when I tried to avoid them.

I can't believe anyone would join them today with such easy access to information on them. And there is tons of it out there. I can't believe anyone STAYS in today with all the information easily available. But then again, when I first started questioning & researching, I had heart palpitations I was so scared!

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My Family Study

by BU2B in

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as i have posted before i am working to help get my wife out of the jws so we can leave together.

i have been trying to think of ways to open her mind and get her to think critically and use her mind.

i dont want to bring lots of facts and reasoning to her attention if her mind is not yet ready for it.

ruderedhead

BU2B, use the DC to your advantage. Take notes on the nonsense said that you can point out to her on the way home that is wrong. Back up what you are telling her.Listen to her response carefully so you know how to proceed. She may be more open than you think,or you may need more evidence. I realize you can't debate everything, or you will put her on the defensive, but if you have one or two major points for every day, she may think about it. The rest can come out slowly, over the course of the next few weeks. Please continue to be patient so you can get her out. You're talking about a lifetime v.(hopefully) several more months. I wish you well, and hopefully you will both be out soon.

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Protesters at conventions / assemblies...

by garyneal in

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first off, i can happily say that this year i did not attend a single day at this years district convention.. on saturday during the convention, my wife asked me to drop her off after lunch and later pick her up when the convention was over.

while i was dropping her off, i noticed a single individual holding picket signs protesting the convention.

it said things like, "was the ransom sacrifice worth it?

ruderedhead

Maybe it would cause someone studying to look it up, or some teens with their smartphones. Perhaps save them a lot of wasted years. One website can lead to another, you never know!

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Being alive

by Nika Bee in

hello, i am (almost) new here, and in the beginning i didn't really think that i would ever post something here.

but then.... yesterday i had a little experience, nothing important , people who haven't been in the organisation have probably a hard time to understand why it's even worth talking (writing) about.

but i though if there are people who can relate to it, they are here, and if not this post will just disappear in the internet and no harm was done.. i was walking my friends' dogs in the evening sun, not thinking about anything.

ruderedhead

So glad you are feeling happy and free! I remember the feelings of guilt when I missed a meeting, even though they all tended to be the same. It takes a while to completely shake that. ENJOY YOUR LIFE!

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Did you pick-up many people for the meetings??

by karter in

i was a regular taxi for alot of people.. we (wife & family) pick up one sister and her 2 children for many years ...he husband had walked out on her and we did'nt mind.. however when we were asked by the cobe wife to pick up and elderly and infermed bro a 3 day assembly (we had 3 young children) i said no.. we pased her and her daughter traviling alone to the assembly.. .

ruderedhead

I only sometimes was asked to give rides to assemblies. I didn't mind, except for the time one poor study had her kids in the back, and her poor kid was afraid to tell his Mom he was getting car sick, and he threw up in the back of my van! On the way to DA. We cleaned it as best as we could,but it sat all day in the MI Summer sun. I scrubbed it 2more times to get the odor out. What really irked me was when I was expected to take on someone else's studies kids for the meetings/assemblies! I had 3 kids of my own, & an unbelieving mate, so I was on my own. And when I was a study, it was rare for anyone to help me. People would just assume I didn't mind taking their study's kids so that the study could "get something out of it".(Yeah, free babysitting!) Why the hell weren't they taking care of their study's kids? My 3 plus 1 or 2 extra. Guess it's a good thing, tho. If I had been able to listen, maybe I wouldn't have gotten out!

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URGENT: NEED HELP FOR A FRIEND FIGHTING HIS JW WIFE FOR CUSTODY

by Mary in

i just got a call from a friend of mine who is going to court on friday to fight to see his children because his jw ex-wife doesn't want him to have access to them anymore.

in a nutshell this is his situation: met her about 12 years ago after she had left the borg and they got married and had a couple of kids.

she decided that she didn't want her children murdered by jehovah at armageddon so after being gone for 7 years, she went back and went back with a vengence.

ruderedhead

Sorry, I just saw this thread. I hope your friend fared well on Friday. If this is an ongoing case,and his attorney has not already instructed him to do this, please suggest to him that he DELETE HIS FACEBOOK PAGE IF HE HAS ONE! I know several lawyers, and they tell their clients to delete them. I also know that some of them have found things they were looking for to use against their opponents on FB. All the best to your frien, Mary.

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I messed myself up...

by MC RubberMallet in

the past few weeks have been hectic.. but i went through an experience that has messed me up since.. i met up with an old friend one day who i know went apostate.

it was a really bad day for me, which was really bad for me since i've been taking ttatt as a speed bump but still moving along in life with an ok adjustment.

he since brought a really nice house, cars, new job, everything he always wanted without feeling guilt.

ruderedhead

MC, I'm so sorry this happened to you. I hope you are feeling better every day. You found out the hard way just because something is legal, doesn't mean it isn't dangerous. I live in Michigan, and there was recently a HUGE outcry over the selling of k2/spice ( it has other names as well). A father whose son had become addicted to this started a huge campaign after he got his son onto rehab. Long story short, the media were all over it, others told their stories, law enforcement became involved, and cities began making it illegal to sell. (by the way, it says not for human consumption on the pkg!) I believe there is now a statewide ban on these products, but I could be wrong.

Hope you can put this one bad experience behind you quickly. Try to find/do things to occupy your time and thoughts so you don't dwell. All the best to you

rudered