well it's been awhile since i got angry and wanted to post on here again.
last week's watchtower about the subject of love had something to say about the hard working attendants.
it seems that they are choosing to sit in the best seats at the convention.
Always bugged me that me in a dress and small babies I had to climb over my husband who sat on the end seat to take the children out sometimes several times a meeting.
It seemed to me he in PANTS and with much longer legs could easier get up and down and over me:)
chapter 49. cool aid anyone?.
this was of course great news for my wife.
all the talk in the congregation about who had caused our spit up was now over.
I think the worse is that one can be df'd in one cong for one thing but it's perfectly fine in another. THAT has always been my biggest issue, this is not the truth when "policies" are subject to different humans feelings.
in a recent canadian case i've seen (on line video in threads on here) the wt lawyer says that disfellowshipping isn't actual shunning but only a cutting off of spiritual association.
but what case is it and is there a transcript available on line?.
any other "good" examples from the point of view that it proves wt speak out of both sides of their mouths?.
Here's my issue...
I reg pioneered off and on and I always talked to my df family members and was super open to the elders that I would always talk to them because they were family and everything non spiritual was family business. I was never removed from my position nor counseled about it because I didn't 1. condone the behavior 2. pray with them or 3. discuss spiritual things which was the big no no 3.
So I think they have some freedom of speech because although they preach one thing they don't really df anyone for talking to their df family members.
Having said all this I've been out for 10+years, things could have changed but then again I would be skeptical because everything always seems to be regional/congregational i.e sisters must wear pantyhose, brothers must not wear colored shirts, etc that was different from place to place.
2 pioneers of the opposite sex.
the brother is in his mid-20s, sister is in her late 20s.
both are alone in car as the only 2 out in field service.
Last one I was reluctant to mention...
Elder and pioneer wife...
Wife has affair with elder husbands bible study that frequented their home and also same time frame their daughter marries fathers best friend also a JW twice her age.
Elder, ex pioneer wife and daughter all no longer in the truth.
I wish I was making this up, but this is my family:).
we all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.
he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.
he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.
I do believe love always wins, one can't personally go wrong showing love if only when being introspective:)
Perhaps family won't see it but I can sleep at night knowing I've done nothing except show love to my believing family. Shunning is on their side not mine.
I text them constantly letting them know I'm thinking about them, telling a joke, and telling them about the amazing things going on in my life. If they don't respond I still win when I lay my head down to sleep knowing I've not cut off my family for their beliefs.
Should they block me, my love for them will never fade as I know they are blinded as I once was. I planted a seed, perhaps one day it will grow:).
the one thing that annoys me most about being a jdub is the control watchtower has over everyone.
for a start, there is absolutely no liberty in christ.
there is no freedom to openly express your own thoughts on scripture.
Only people allowed to do this is the governing body when they discuss "new light". Some of the changes they have made would be a df matter to the rest of us! UGG
that;s what my wife (and all jw's) gets to hear about us at the kingdom hall today, (hmmmm, i wonder if she'll raise her hand to answer this one) ... .
watchtower study ... today, apostates and others who create divisions in the congregation use “smooth talk and flattering speech.” (romans 16:17, 18) they may pretend to care about others, but in reality, they are selfish.. (the watchtower - study edition (simplified version) 10/17 page 4 paragraph 7).
They have to say this because we genuinely care about our loved ones still in and they know it.
The actual truth of loving a family member gets twisted to fit their horrid narrative!
we all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.
he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.
he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.
PaleE,
First I wanted to say how much of a true brother you are!
Secondly I wanted to say love always wins.
Thirdly I wanted to say how much I appreciate you and others on this site (I don't post much but I lurk) for all the support you all provide even when we disagree!
Best wishes!
FNM
2 pioneers of the opposite sex.
the brother is in his mid-20s, sister is in her late 20s.
both are alone in car as the only 2 out in field service.
Remembered another one (I can't believe I forgot this one because it was huge back in the day)...
Single reg pioneer sister who also partook (she was mid to late 30's so that was always talked about) started hanging out a lot with a married sister. They were both df. Rumor was it was a lesbian affair.
Married sister divorced and about 10 years later it was confirmed by one of her children that she was living an openly gay life.
I don't know what happened to the reg/anointed/single sister, she moved away.
Hopefully they are both happy with whatever lifestyle they so choose!
2 pioneers of the opposite sex.
the brother is in his mid-20s, sister is in her late 20s.
both are alone in car as the only 2 out in field service.
Young pioneer brother newly wed works out in service with married older pioneer sister regularly (he early 20's she in mid 30's) caught having an affair. Neither DF'd only loss of privilages but both marriages eventually break up (his within several months). He moved away got df'd returned remarried back in. Older pioneer sister family also moved away and marriage broke up a year later.
Young brother also said innocent wife returned to normal relations, his wife claimed they didn't resume marital relations. Nothing happened to innocent wife as no evidence they did resume normal relations. They lived together for several months then divorced.
