Posts by inbetween09

Tim, I asked myself the same question, particularly regarding the betrayal fo Judas Iscariot. Even as a full believing PIMI could not wrap my head around it.

Now I know, that so called prophesy does not exist anyhow. Still, I do not have a scientific sound answer to whether we have free will or not .

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WT study April 5 - how uplifting! How happifying! How encouraging!

by sir82 in

for you poor saps unfortunate enough to have missed yesterday's zoom watchtower study, i thought i'd prepare a little summary for you.. in fact, to keep things really short, i'll just highlight the outstanding verbs from the article.. paragraph 2: do not view.

paragraph 4: think seriously about the warning.....partake unworthily.

paragraph 5: do not feel...does not give....do not feel....would never tell.

inbetween09

the best was, hen they said, we need not worry about the increasing number of partakers, but why in all the world do we always count them ?

What use of a statistical number if the content of its information is useless?

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Memorial 20.20

by inbetween09 in

how do congregations in times of corona curfews handle it ?.

there should be a video of the talk on jw.org for the general public.

are publichers just encouraged to watch it on april 7th?

inbetween09

How do Congregations in times of Corona curfews handle it ?

There should be a video of the talk on jw.org for the general public.

Are Publichers just encouraged to watch it on april 7th? Or will there be a zoom meeting with a locla brother handling the talk?

What about the symbols? In my mothers (PIMI) congo the elders require the simple publishers to prepare the bread and the wine at their home, each of them, even if no one is of the anointed.

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If you're "anointed" don't seek out other "anointed" so says the Watchtower January 2020

by RolRod in

when i was affiliated with the witnesses, there were barely 6,000 who profess to be of the anointed remnant.

i recently read somewhere that today there are over 20,000 who profess to be anointed.

that figure may be more when you consider those who meet and partake privately for fear of the stigma of claiming to be anointed.

inbetween09

weird, so the "other sheep" should time and again talk about their future hope on a paradise earth, but this is not allowed for the anointed ? Another proof of how controlling this org gets….

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JWs: No Infant Baptism! (just children)

by neat blue dog in

here's a new article that came out:.

do jehovah’s witnesses baptize infants?no.

the bible does not endorse infant baptism.

inbetween09

sorry, wanted to qoute the Story of cognitivedizzy

anyway, I know a family in our hall, very similar Situation, one sone, babtized at 12, dfd at 18, no contact allowed, even though he is the most reasonable out of whole family. Another son, never babtized, did crazy stuff and caused lots of troubles, but if he occassionally enters KH, he is love bombed.

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JWs: No Infant Baptism! (just children)

by neat blue dog in

here's a new article that came out:.

do jehovah’s witnesses baptize infants?no.

the bible does not endorse infant baptism.

inbetween09

cognitivedizzy 4 hours ago

true story

Family, two sons, one DFd due to him no longer believing this is the TRUTH, younger did not get Baptized but does crazier shit and is downright vile, cannot be DFd, family can have a normal relationship with the evil younger son, the elder one who left for sane reasons cannot have a decent relationship with them anymore

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How Much of the WT Teaching Did You Believe?

by Ding in

some people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of wt teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.. others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth.".

i would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if i should be in or out.. how about you?.

inbetween09

good Question.

I was raised as a witness,initially I believed everything.

Later, when my interest in science grew, I stopped believeing, that all animals will eat veggies in paradise, I had doubts about a worldwide Flood, and I thought the trumpets in Revelation were bogus.

I also anticipated a change in explaining the generation in the 90`s,

I always knew the Society got 1975 wrong, it was not the rank and file fault, as they tried to blame them.

But all this was not the real issue for me.

What started to wake me up were the inconsistences in their blood doctrine, because this meant life or death for people.

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The real dividing line isn’t between apostates and apologists it’s between...

by slimboyfat in

excellent observation from zizek about communist regimes: they didn’t care if people accepted the ideology or took it seriously, so long as people acted as if the ideology was true, that was the important thing.

in fact the regimes were deeply suspicious people who took the ideology too seriously.

people who took the ideology seriously were dangerous because they were prone to noticing the inconsistencies and flaws in the system.

inbetween09

Totally agree, before I got out mentally, I had the wish more and more to dig deeper, having real spiritual discussions and achieving full understanding of JW teachings. I could Always easily explain 2520 years, was my favourite subject when conducting bible studies (it left the Student Always puzzled anyhow).

It was my effort to understand the blood doctrine, About Major and minor components, that opened the crack slowly. later on, the article Sept 2007 KMS (qouted earleir) was my next shake up.

It ended up Living as a PIMO, not being able to leave yet because if Family.

My wife is the opposite example, she always had problems explaining deeper Things, mainly because she didn`t take the time to study it. She fortunately agrees on some of my critical views, but since doctrine never was the most important issue, she is not ready to leave, and thinks, Jah will fix it in due time, and of course, where else shall we go

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As a JW Did You Prefer a “Stricter” Congregation or a More Liberal One?

by minimus in

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in my experience, there were three types of witnesses.

some were barely witnesses while others were extremely conservative types who followed the letter of the law.

and then you had those in the middle who just went with the flow.. i knew many witnesses who “felt safe” being in a stricter environment.they were actually proud that they belonged to such and such congregation because it was filled with strict bethelites..

inbetween09

growing up as a JW in a rather strict congregation, I always preferred more liberal ones, actually as liberal as it can get within the given boundaries.

It might have to do with me appreciating freedom more than authority and accountability more than immaturity.