wisdomfrombelow
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Had you thought of feeling sorry for the G.B?
by The Rebel ini only bring this to the board, because a friend of mine once said he felt sorry for the footballers who made so much money.
that comment stayed with me, and over the years,the more i thought about that comment the more i agreed with him.. i admit the g.b destroy people's life's and are the sublimation of all that's good in people's life.
there only excuse is a fantazy asylum they claim to believe in.
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wisdomfrombelow
I feel no pity for them. They accepted when offered the position so they are entitled to any problems associated with it. -
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How did your close JWs react when they found out you know TTATT?
by ivanatahan ini'm not sure if this topic has ever been posted (surely, i believe it has), but it would be interesting to revive such a topic and hear your stories!.
when my parents heard my first rant (after they told me to be home schooled when i was caught kissing a girl) they entered into a long depression that continues to this day.
my father suffers knowing his once amazing family is now divided, and my mother is equally angry.
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wisdomfrombelow
Some of them shun me. Some of them just don't discuss religious things with me. Some of them want to understand my viewpoint. Some agree with me and know TTATT but are stuck in for family reasons. Everyone is different. They know I am DF'd and some just don't let that stop them from keeping in touch. -
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Old is Becoming New Again?
by Tazemanian-devil inis it just me, or does it seem like jw.org is returning to some very old methods from rutherford's era?.
- their carts / booths is very reminiscent of the sandwich board system, including the fact that they no longer personally engage.
- showing videos via the tablet / smartphone is almost exactly like the phonograph method they used.
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wisdomfrombelow
Witness 007
Brother Knorr/Franz 1943 take over is being reversed.It seems like they are deconstructing what they constructed because there is a decline and not an increase. No more training of missionaries. Vastly reorganized branch structure. Revamped bible. End of types/antitypes. Revising the New World Translation. Like Russell and Rutherford before them, Knorr and Franz would not recognize what happened to the religion they built.
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How the college educated/employed "weak" JW's will soon be "used"
by ToesUp inonce these laid off bethelites are released from their duties, where will they go?.
how many will turn to their "spiritually weak" families for a place to live, a meal or financial aid?
the ones who have been criticized over the years for attending college and getting a good job may soon become an asset to the ones who have been relieved of their duties .
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wisdomfrombelow
If they do that it will be like the Society on one side of their mouth asking for people with specific skills to volunteer and on the other side of their mouth saying they don't endorse the education that enabled them to attain those skills. Makes them look foolish but perhaps if they eat "humble pie" and ask for help maybe they might have a change in perspective. Or if they don't get help maybe they might have a change in perspective of headquarters. -
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How Much Does It Cost To Produce One Watchtower Magazine?
by The Governor inhello everyone i had a quick question to ask.
does anyone know how much it cost to produce a watchtower magazine?
also does anyone know how much each watchtower magazine is worth?
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wisdomfrombelow
It really depends on volume. There are fixed costs and variable costs. Running the presses, buying the paper and ink, time it takes to write and translate. With the jw.org online magazines it is the same costs no matter how many people download an issue and that is the reason for the big push to online. It can be done much, much cheaper. -
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Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th
by Watchtower-Free inoctober 4, 2015. to all congregations.
re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.
dear brothers:.
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wisdomfrombelow
Our Kingdom Ministry is being replaced by a new four-color, eight-page monthly publication entitled Our Christian Life and Ministry—Meeting Workbook (mwb).
If this new workbook has no announcements and no stats then the only way the rank and file will know about "theocratic increase" is via the yearbook. They won't see any more monthly decreases that used to be in the older Kingdom Ministry. Is the monthly average low in the USA? No one will know anymore, all they will have is the congregation average which the CO can use when considering appointments.
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Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th
by Watchtower-Free inoctober 4, 2015. to all congregations.
re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.
dear brothers:.
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wisdomfrombelow
If this is true then there is no 2nd school. Which means no need for the space for extra classrooms. Which means more space for a main hall.
It also means less people needed to give parts and more opportunity for sisters (if they do all three presentations) or to give pioneers more of the spotlight. I guess the written review will be gone as well...good riddance.
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Guardians of Doctrine?
by wisdomfrombelow ini can't imagine the governing body as being the "guardians of the jw doctrine".
they have the power to make new laws but i really don't think they understand the history of their doctrine.i was reflecting on truthseeker's jehovah's witness guide to understanding the generation teaching chart and how it simply showed the changes through time.
i wonder what it would look like if most of their "unique" teachings were displayed that way?there are enthusiasts of tv shows, movies, comic books who seem to know more about the characters and their nuances than the people who write them or who created them.
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wisdomfrombelow
I can't imagine the Governing Body as being the "guardians of the JW doctrine". They have the power to make new laws but I really don't think they understand the history of their doctrine.
I was reflecting on truthseeker's Jehovah's Witness Guide to Understanding the Generation Teaching chart and how it simply showed the changes through time. I wonder what it would look like if most of their "unique" teachings were displayed that way?
There are enthusiasts of TV shows, movies, comic books who seem to know more about the characters and their nuances than the people who write them or who created them. There are also Witnesses and former Witnesses who know more about the policy changes and history than the current writers of JW doctrine.
An JW cannon of beliefs and how they developed through history would be interesting and should exist for the "guardians of doctrine" so when they write more of their JW fiction they can at least be consistent. But consistency was never important to them, having power and control is and they have that refined very well. -
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Is the WT SLOW-ly Changing the importance of the Door to Door preaching work to something more profitable?
by John Aquila inits been a couple of weeks since a new c.o.
was appointed to the circuit and im starting to hear tidbits of his talks..
one brother told me that in one of his talks he asked the question; .
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wisdomfrombelow
The door-to-door work is busy work. For decades it was emphasized as a way to make money. Print literature, have the publishers pay for the literature and then have them possible get back their financial overlay by the money received from the householder. As long as the publisher paid for the literature the Society got it's money, whether it was placed or not.
Now they can no longer require a fee for the literature from the publishers so they are spending money to print it and not getting money back.They need to find a way to get money and keep the publishers busy. Carts definitely can keep a person busy but they can't have everyone do a cart. If they can get free labor from construction and give pioneer credit or make up a new term so the construction workers feel special, they will do that also.
Door to door work might change to offering only tracts or highlighting the website where the householder can download the literature and that won't cost them much money. I don't see them getting something to replace door to door as what else can occupy so many people for so long?
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The bridge burning has begun.
by sparrowdown ini was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....
i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..
so i texted her back immediately with fu..
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wisdomfrombelow
I don't know your previous relationship with your sister but everyone here seems to be cheering you on for what you did. It is good to be true to yourself but I wouldn't have done it the way you did. It seemed like all it would do is make tension.
Perhaps visiting her in person and having her sit down before her telling her the news might have braced her for the announcement and maybe would have created some compassion and understanding from your sister. Maybe not. I also don't like obscenities being sent in texts but perhaps I am old fashioned.
I hope you can find unconditional friends you can spend time with. That takes time and energy and isn't as easy as one gets older. Welcome to the rest of your life...enjoy it.