Posts by wisdomfrombelow

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I don't know why...but this is what has been happening in my ex-jw world...

by misguided in

so i took up volunterring for habitat for humanity in one of their restores about a year and a half/two years ago.

now as far as i've known growing up in the religion, this is a faith-based organization that jehovah's witnesses are not to support.

so i am wirded ou in some ways of what has happened during this time.. my first event was a previous elder from a congregation 3 hours away from where i live now, coming into the store.

wisdomfrombelow

As others have mentioned, I had not idea it was a faith-based store. Then again I don't read all the mission statements on all the places I shop at. I would agree that it is just people looking for bargains and not deliberately seeking to support a particular religious institution

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When Was Jerusalem Destroyed By The Babylonians?

by Smart in

can someone explain in easy to understand language what this argument is all about.

i am not that clever.

i am hoping to talk to the elders about this as well as whoever is willing to talk about it on here.

wisdomfrombelow

I am going to be brave and present this year count of kings to the elders tomorrow.

You are not going to be brave. As stated before you will be showing the truth to someone who wants to believe a lie and what happens to those who cast their pearls before swine? The elders main job is to support the Society and enforce its rules/decisions/discipline. Your action will not be appreciated by those whose minds are already closed.

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New requirement to become an Elder or Ministerial Servant!

by hardtobeme in

jw
friends

it has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.

he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.

if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".

wisdomfrombelow

As a different take on this matter, since the CO appoints all servants and elders he can make whatever personal rules he wants and since the Society doesn't do it I guess there is no way to appeal it. Just wait until a new CO comes around in 3 years or less.

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CANDACE CONTI - REMOVED FROM JW.ORG?

by The Searcher in

has the org's comment on the candace conti case been removed from jw.org?

if not, can someone give me a clue how to retrieve it please?

thanks for any help..

wisdomfrombelow

The link Cedars gave is no longer working. It appears to be removed now. I wish I had saved a screen shot.

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GB Doesnt Believe in 1914 Anymore My reasoning

by thedepressedsoul in

i have heard a lot of talk over the last year or so if the gb will eventually ditch 1914 and some have even made the claim that most, if not all of the gb do not believe in 1914. ive given this some thought and in the past i wasnt sure.

this annual meeting puts 100%, without a doubt in my mind that the gb do not believe in 1914. id even go as far to say that they talked about that date and have a game plan in mind.. here is why i feel this way:.

there were a lot of changes with the parables at this annual meeting.

wisdomfrombelow

I see no reason to get rid of 1914 as they can just put a spin on it. I am sure the Gentile times calculation has been scrapped but they will just say Satan was cast out of heaven in 1914 and we predicted that for 40 years prior to it happening. Dates based on some interpretation of prophecy have probably seen their day and won't come back again. But they still have 1914 as evidence that they were waiting for something big and knew about it in advance. Any other year such as 1934 has two problems--they weren't preaching about it in advance and nothing monumental happened. 1914 is their ace-in-the-hole especially when they whitewash their true history

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Reinstatement via Old Cong.

by startingover13 in

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friends

i've applied to be reinstatement in a new city after attending meetings for a bit.

i wrote my letter and they heard my case.

they were very helpful.

wisdomfrombelow

Simply put, the congregation that disfellowshipped you has to be the one to reinstate you. They will forward their decision to your old congregation and if they decide to reinstate you then they will let you know. If they don't decide then you will have to try again later.

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Help me help my DF'd friend

by OneEyedJoe in

jw
friends

so i got a text from a friend of mine today telling me that he'd been df'd.

since i'm still nominally a witness, this puts me in a tricky spot.

i intend to tell him in no uncertain terms that i will not shun him, but i'm not sure where to go beyond that.

wisdomfrombelow

If it wasn't announced from the platform yet then he is not disfellowshipped yet and you and therefore violated no rules. Since people are given up to 1 week to write an appeal letter you can still talk to him and associate with him under JW terms until it is announced from the platform.

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Help me help my DF'd friend

by OneEyedJoe in

jw
friends

so i got a text from a friend of mine today telling me that he'd been df'd.

since i'm still nominally a witness, this puts me in a tricky spot.

i intend to tell him in no uncertain terms that i will not shun him, but i'm not sure where to go beyond that.

wisdomfrombelow

As ABibleStudent says, go see him face-to-face. Don't acknowledge the text any other way except a personal visit. How does he know you even received the text otherwise. I assume he doesn't go to your hall so you wouldn't have heard any announcement about it. Just go over and see him and maybe bring something for his little baby and set aside some time to spend with him. If he wants to talk to you about his situation you could say "i thought it was a spam text" or just say it must not have gotten delivered (that happens sometime) and just listen to what he has to say. That way you can gauge how he feels and since you are already there to see him and bring something for the baby you can continue asking about how he and his family is. As others have said, don't text him and calling is really not enough to get proper feedback or give proper comfort to someone in his situation. At least that is what I would do...and then see how things go after that.

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Does the President of the WT have any power?

by BU2B in

i thought about this after reading incognito's thread.

i was wondering if anyone here has any idea what the president of the wt actually does or if he truly has any real power, or if he is merely the gb puppet..

wisdomfrombelow

I would say "follow the money" to see who has the real power. I've heard that the GB are required to travel in suits. That sounds like a corp decision. I don't have any knowledge of the by-laws but the officers and voting members of the Society have the control of the funds. If the corp decided to rebel against the governing body or print somethng totally different i guess it could. Rutherford staged a coup and ousted the then "governing body" and installed his own men as officers. I reckon if a majority of the Society and the officers decided to do the same the "governing body" would be without any real influence because of their isolation. I've often wondered about Kingdom Halls and their usage. What if a plurality of the publishers wanted to approve something without the elder body consent or blessing? Are there some states where because of how the congregation is set up that they could do so?

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BOE * 2014-07-15 Witnessing in public places REVISION

by WatchTower87 in

boe * 2014-07-15 witnessing in public places revision.

old version: 2014-05-01 witnessing in public places pdf: http://adf.ly/qagwu.

new version: 2014-07-15 witnessing in public places pdf: http://adf.ly/r6tsl.

wisdomfrombelow

How many different versions of this letter are they? The May one replaces one from November 2012...