I remember back 25 years ago when they officially dropped shunning of "unapproved associates". Those unbaptized persons who would have been disfellowshipped if they were baptized and they were shunned before and now no longer were officially shunned. People who were not spoken to for years were suddenly love-bombed. I heard the change was due to a lawsuit and I guess that is how many rules get changed. They protect their ASSets. They will never drop disfellowshipping but how it is implemented might change. And they can always shift the burden to the publishers to "do what they want" even if it isn't what they say (like voting).
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rumor out that governing body is going to adjust the loveing disfellowshiping arangment df yes shunning no.
by poopie incan anyone confirm they seem to be having disagreement writing dept and service dept some feel that df ok as long as you do not add wholesale across the board shunning regardless of the sin ..
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A letter To My Friend
by Garrett inhey guys,.
so i've written up a letter to my friend that i plan on sending him to try to wake him up.
he's a very sensible man who i care deeply for.
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wisdomfrombelow
Since you put it out there for us to comment I will comment. Reading this and your last letter about the gift you received from the congregation makes me think you should NOT send this letter. Since your friend was calling and texting and you refused to respond, perhaps you should just state that you want to talk to him. Somethings are better said "face to face" especially if you really want to reach his heart.
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Gifts from my old hall..
by Garrett inhey guys,.
so, it seems the hall i used to attend before my latest one got to hearing that i "disappeared".
so today, i went to the post office to pick up a package.... i decided to try to face reality and open it... what i found were multiple letters and wrapped gifts.
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wisdomfrombelow
I know many people who would be so happy to have received that type of attention even if it is from people who you no longer care about. What did they have to say? You will never know. I refused to paint every active JW with the same brush that many do. Maybe some of them might have written things that could have indicated unconditional love or maybe some might be feeling the same as you and wanted to let you know.
It is definitely not typical as most here will tell you when they faded it became "out of sight, out of mind" but that is just my opinion and my reaction. They did much more than just send a text or make a phone call. They actually wrote cards and letters and even mailed gifts. I find nothing wrong with what they did and it seems like a very nice thing to do.
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GB need to go back into hiding like they use to be.
by thedepressedsoul inthe broadcasting, annual meetings, wt articles, talks etc... that show these gb members upfront are killing them!
they are not only making a complete fool of themselves but they expect us to sit and watch them, listen to them and then believe they are the direct communication with jehovah!?!.
i can't tell you how many comments i've heard from "spiritual" people that i thought i'd never hear them say, not in a good way!
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wisdomfrombelow
I love that they are coming out of the shadows. I also hope one day that they will list the writer for the articles in the magazines. Then everyone who reads some that nonsense can see who wrote it and view it in that light. Is the writer single and writing an article on family life? Is he childless and giving child-rearing advice? Is he uneducated and downgrading education? More exposure helps people with see how things really are. -
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WTF... what happened? or - I'm old and hate change
by undercover ini leave you people alone for one holiday, and you go and change the whole dern place around.
i can't find anything, don't recognize anything, i'm lost... wait, i sound like my grandfather... .
why, would you look what you've done to the place.
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I don't know why...but this is what has been happening in my ex-jw world...
by misguided inso i took up volunterring for habitat for humanity in one of their restores about a year and a half/two years ago.
now as far as i've known growing up in the religion, this is a faith-based organization that jehovah's witnesses are not to support.
so i am wirded ou in some ways of what has happened during this time.. my first event was a previous elder from a congregation 3 hours away from where i live now, coming into the store.
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wisdomfrombelow
As others have mentioned, I had not idea it was a faith-based store. Then again I don't read all the mission statements on all the places I shop at. I would agree that it is just people looking for bargains and not deliberately seeking to support a particular religious institution
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When Was Jerusalem Destroyed By The Babylonians?
by Smart incan someone explain in easy to understand language what this argument is all about.
i am not that clever.
i am hoping to talk to the elders about this as well as whoever is willing to talk about it on here.
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wisdomfrombelow
I am going to be brave and present this year count of kings to the elders tomorrow.
You are not going to be brave. As stated before you will be showing the truth to someone who wants to believe a lie and what happens to those who cast their pearls before swine? The elders main job is to support the Society and enforce its rules/decisions/discipline. Your action will not be appreciated by those whose minds are already closed.
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New requirement to become an Elder or Ministerial Servant!
by hardtobeme init has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.
he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.
if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".
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wisdomfrombelow
As a different take on this matter, since the CO appoints all servants and elders he can make whatever personal rules he wants and since the Society doesn't do it I guess there is no way to appeal it. Just wait until a new CO comes around in 3 years or less.
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CANDACE CONTI - REMOVED FROM JW.ORG?
by The Searcher inhas the org's comment on the candace conti case been removed from jw.org?
if not, can someone give me a clue how to retrieve it please?
thanks for any help..
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wisdomfrombelow
The link Cedars gave is no longer working. It appears to be removed now. I wish I had saved a screen shot.
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GB Doesnt Believe in 1914 Anymore My reasoning
by thedepressedsoul ini have heard a lot of talk over the last year or so if the gb will eventually ditch 1914 and some have even made the claim that most, if not all of the gb do not believe in 1914. ive given this some thought and in the past i wasnt sure.
this annual meeting puts 100%, without a doubt in my mind that the gb do not believe in 1914. id even go as far to say that they talked about that date and have a game plan in mind.. here is why i feel this way:.
there were a lot of changes with the parables at this annual meeting.
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wisdomfrombelow
I see no reason to get rid of 1914 as they can just put a spin on it. I am sure the Gentile times calculation has been scrapped but they will just say Satan was cast out of heaven in 1914 and we predicted that for 40 years prior to it happening. Dates based on some interpretation of prophecy have probably seen their day and won't come back again. But they still have 1914 as evidence that they were waiting for something big and knew about it in advance. Any other year such as 1934 has two problems--they weren't preaching about it in advance and nothing monumental happened. 1914 is their ace-in-the-hole especially when they whitewash their true history