Posts by Formerbrother

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CANCER - AND THE DANGERS OF ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE!

by Dansk in

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dear all,.

i've thought long and hard before writing this - which came about after linda (fullofdoubtnow), who is suffering from pancreatic cancer, was recommended alternative treatments to mainstream medicine.

i believe i am in a strong position to know just how effective many (most/all?

Formerbrother

I would prefer alternatives to big pharma drugs

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

The vatican has over a million tons of gold

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Give us more faith WT

by Formerbrother in

what a picture in this sundays wter.

the go bag is there and they have to turn all the lights out and have their meeting in secret.. .

in our congregation we are really being pushed hard to get your go bags in order for every member of the congregation, with at least 3-5 days food and water.. .

Formerbrother

Again you have posted a quote that I can not verify.

This is July 15 2011 WT.

file:///C:/Users/NL-ADULT.BLIB.872/Downloads/wp_E_20110701.pdf

Where do you get your quotes from? Do you ever check them?

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

Im trying to find this quote you posted...

-- w12 9/15 p. 22 par. 16 Learn From the Patience of Jehovah and Jesus
Well, a person who lacks confidence that the end is near might start to make alternate arrangements, so to speak, in case things do not work out as Jehovah said they would.

P22 par 16 doesnt say anything like that its all about women.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20120901/

Did you just make that up? And the others? Yes just checked a few, they all seem to be bogus.

475

What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

I don't think you read the watchtower's own quotes I left you, did you!

I tried to, something went wrong, you should double check them. That one in Sep 2012 is all about how God loves women.

475

What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

Finkelstein

I guess one has to evaluate where light is coming from when its obvious false corrupt light ?

Jesus also said that in the end times Satan will decisive for he knows he has little time left.

Perhaps the guiding light of Jesus's adversary Satan the Devil ???

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I agree with you when you say, yes you have to evaluate where the light is coming from. I am sincerely doing this with an open mind.

Yes Satan is trying to deceive, do you really think Satan is at the top of the JW org? Ive not heard that one before.

If so why would he want so many people preaching about loving Jehovah and hating Satan himself all around the world in such big numbers?

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

Former Brother wrote "Seriously, you are saying the Vatican and the Pope are nearer to the truth than Jw org?"

Yes I am. How could I say such a thing? Look at the fruits. I gave you real examples of fruits that the Church that Jesus started has given the world. You on the other hand have not named 1 JW fruit. Everyone knows that the bible is a catholic book. How could the watchtower [or anyone else] be a better authority on it? Name a JW fruit or truth that would convince anyone?

just asking an apologist

Usually I will would reply to be polite. But I dont think its worth it in this case.

You go on thinking what you like of the pope and the vatican and the million tons of gold they have taken from the people over the millenniums, I will go on thinking what I think.

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

Im trying to find this quote you posted...

-- w12 9/15 p. 22 par. 16 Learn From the Patience of Jehovah and Jesus
Well, a person who lacks confidence that the end is near might start to make alternate arrangements, so to speak, in case things do not work out as Jehovah said they would.

P22 par 16 doesnt say anything like that its all about women.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20120901/

Did you just make that up? And the others? Yes just checked a few, they all seem to be bogus.

475

What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

Sure. why not? If god communicates, why is god so useless at communicating given that he's so magical? The watchtower has also claimed to be god's mouthpiece, a claim they should never make if they are just imperfect men?

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Your being childish. Think about it, the light was prophesied to get brighter and brighter in the time of the end.

They only ever claim to be imperfect men, I only claim to be an imperfect man. Do you claim to be perfect?

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

punkofnice6 minutes ago

yes back in the 19th century and very early in the 20 century the JW org was not worldwide and they certainly needed some adjustments, these have been corrected.

Would you afford this privilege of allowing 'adjustments' to other religions? EG, the catholic church and the comfy chair...er I mean the spanish inquisition..as an example? If not, why not?

The only modern source you quoted was that 1970's WT

But if the watchtower is gods mouthpiece as they claim, it doesn't matter what year quotes are from. The fact that adjustments are needed proves that god isn't in the mix. It would have been far easier for god to get it right first time.

Who else is united all around the world like JW's?

Uniformity isn't unity. There is a lot of pretense in the watchtower corporation that is face value only.

Who else is united? You really haven't looked, have you!

One question I'd ask is, Why does watchtower corporation hide paedophiles and not report tham to the proper authorities?

Have another go, mate. Dare to scratch below the surface. That's what I did as an elder and the results horrified me. I realised quickly that the watchtower corporation was just a big business using the cover of religion to scam money out of people.

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So in the late 1800's Br Russell had to get everything spot on accurate and understand the entire bible straight away?

Yes ofcourse we should afford this privilege of allowing 'adjustments' to other religions. What if Muslims said they wouldnt actually get 70 virgins in paradise when they blew themselves up in a suicide attack ! Everybody should be pleased?

About the love among themselves, yes JWs do actually have love amung themselves all around the world in every tribe and nation. As we said before the Mormans are the only other org who come close but no where near as close.