CANCER - AND THE DANGERS OF ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE!

by Dansk 32 Replies latest jw friends

  • Dansk
    Dansk

    Dear All,

    I've thought long and hard before writing this - which came about after Linda (fullofdoubtnow), who is suffering from pancreatic cancer, was recommended alternative treatments to mainstream medicine. I believe I am in a strong position to know just how effective many (most/all?) alternative cancer treatments are. Let me also say that I know people here would recommend alternatives only because they mean well.

    Three years ago I received the news from a specialist doctor that we all dread - I had terminal cancer! It had started with my finding a lump under my left armpit and, after eventually having been referred to my local hospital after being misdiagnosed twice, after a lymph node biopsy was performed it was found I had mantle cell lymphoma - the worst type of Non-Hodgkin's Disease.

    I read all I could about the disease and found that chemotherapy was the prescribed treatment. Only a short time previously I had watched a friend die of breast cancer and she had had a torrid time with the chemo. I have to admit that the thought of having chemotherapy scared me to death because it is so toxic.

    I perused the internet and read all I could on alternative/complimentary treatments and decided, much to the chagrin of my doctors, that I would refuse all mainstream treatments and go down the alternative route. I spent a lot of money on books telling me how to beat cancer, on vitamins and minerals, the likes of Essiac tea and apricot kernals, homeopathy and was given Reiki and faith healing free and also practiced cancer-healing chi-gung and became a vegan. I cannot list here everything I tried but, believe me, I tried almost everything!!

    For a few months the disease seemed to be being held in check, but then the lump under my arm grew to the size of a grapefruit and I also had tumours in my chest and neck. I started then to deteriorate fast and found it difficult to breath. A check-up at the hospital revealed I had fluid on my left lung and the cancer had spread into my nasal region. No wonder I couldn't breath! In fact, my lack of being able to breath properly brought on panic attacks. I was desperate for breath at times and was really worried that I'd die gasping for breath.

    I'll keep this short. I was eventually admitted into hospital and had a pluerodesis perfpormed, i.e. the fluid (10 pints) was drained from my lung and the lung stuck down to prevent a fluid build-up recurring. Thankfully, it was a success - but I realised I was falling apart.

    I left hospital and immediately headed for Bristol - around a 4-5 hours drive - to see a private doctor who specialises in alternative cancer treatments. I paid £120.00 for the privilege only to find that everything she recommended I was already doing!!!

    I eventually went back to see my haematologist. I was like someone out of a concentration camp and was informed that if I didn't accept treatment soon I would be unable to receive it as I was getting too weak. A professor confirmed the prognosis and gave me six weeks to live. I had no choice but to abandon the alternative/complimentary route and accept the mainstream medicine which was, of course, chemotherapy.

    I have related elsewhere what the treatment did to me. At one stage things got so bad I didn't care if I died.

    Now, there ARE some cases of people who have miraculously recovered from cancer to the amazement of their doctors - but these are very few and far between. Most so-called miracle cures are based on anecdotal rather than empirical evidence.

    This site highlights many of the quack "cancer cures", some of which I had tried: http://www.quackwatch.org/index.html

    I reiterate that I KNOW people mean well when they advise treatments alternative to chemotherapy but unless they know someone PERSONALLY who has taken them and survived cancer or if they have survived cancer THEMSELVES using them then they should be very careful in being quick to recommend anything! How would they feel if after using the alternatives/complimentary treatments the patient died?! It really is too risky!

    If it were not for the doctors and my using chemotherapy I would not be here now. Little Toe can testify to the size of the tumour I had!

    I am not out of the woods yet. Happily, last week, I was informed that I was in remission and now the hunt is on to find an unrelated matched donor (MUD) so that I can receive their stem cells. This type of allogenic stem cell transplant, which is taken from the donor's blood, has actually been proven to be life-saving for a number of patients. I know of four people with my disease who have survived and are cancer-free after having such a stem cell transplant.

    Unfortunately, there is a danger that I could die through the treatment as it is similar to someone having a transplant and one's immune system attacks themselves. 20% (1 in 5) people die from the procedure - but I turn it around and say that 80% (4 in 5) survive. I'm hoping and praying that I am one of them!! Put another way, if I don't have the procedure I'll die anyway.

    So, please, before anyone thinks about recommending alternative/complimentary treatments be aware that most are not efficacious! You could be recommending more harm than good!! Believe me, I would do anything not to have chemotherapy - providing it genuinely works!

    Contrary to what many people think (myself included at one time) doctors are not in league with drug companies to make big profits at the expense of their patients.

    Finally, mainstream medicine has made great strides recently in its fight against cancer with a number of cures and potential cures being found. Personally, I have now lived longer than expected - thanks to the doctors and their treatments. Had I stuck with the alternative route you would not be reading my post now.

    Ian

  • tall penguin
    tall penguin

    Thank you Dansk for bringing your experience to the discussion.

    I've been an alt med proponent for many years. I even worked at an alt med clinic with Naturopaths and Homeopaths. I've done just about every alt med treatment out there over the years for my health issues. When I left the org and began questioning my religious beliefs, my beliefs around health also came up for consideration. The more I learned about science, evolution, medicine and biology I realized that much of alt med is wishful thinking, not unlike being a jw.

    I am now quite skeptical of alt med, as I am of most things. I think your post reminds us all to not only investigate treatments before choosing them, but also to check our premises. What are we using as our basis for decision-making?

    tall penguin

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Ian:

    Little Toe can testify to the size of the tumour I had!

    I can testify to more than the size of the lump - I can testify to everything else that you've written here.

    You're one of the bravest men I know, and to be candid Claire is even braver. I love your wee family to bits, and I'm so pleased that you're still around to tell the tale, help others and to spread your love in the world.

    Modern medicine is often the miracle that we're looking and praying for, with doctors and scientists just as desperate to find a cure as those who suffer. We've got quite a ways to go, but we've come an incredibly long way with surgery, anaesthetics, antibiotics and transplant treatments. Previous generations wouldn't have been able to diagnose, far less treat, many of the conditions that we see today. Few of them are new, but we were just ignorant of their existance. Thankfully its now become rare for a Doctor to put the abbreviation GOK (God Only Knows) in a patient's notes.

    I don't decry alternative remedies as a supplement to medical care, for at the very least the fact that the placebo effect can work wonders and is now illegal to prescribe. Besides, I suspect that they can have some benefitbut not as a substitute to proper care.

    Meanwhile I can only underline your own attitude in such circumstances - "keep on fighting" and "enjoy every breath of life"!

  • anewme
    anewme

    I got the message. Advice taken Ian.

    Best wishes to you and your family.



  • Crumpet
    Crumpet

    Hi Ian - I think its extremely important that you posted your first hand experience on this. I am so glad you are still with us!

    I'm sending you a quick pm about the stem cell thingy!

  • Frannie Banannie
    Frannie Banannie

    Thank you ((((Ian)))) Your message is well-taken.

    Hugs to you and your family.

    Frannie

  • Xena
    Xena

    I applaud and appreciate your writing this Dansk.

    My mom tried both alternative and traditional medicine to cure her cancer. Traditional first and then when they no longer gave her hope she tried alternative. Whether or not using alternative methods extended her life I don't know. It didn't cure her though, that much I do know. I don't blame them just as I don't blame traditional methods for her death because death unfortunately is unavoidable. They can't save everyone they can only do their best.

    I'm really looking forward to seeing you again soon Dansk, hopefully this summer.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    Glad that you are still here to share this experience with us Ian .. I have been lucky with health, but my observation of those who have used alternatative treatments makes me skeptical of their merits . You can pay a fortune and get no better.

    now the hunt is on to find an unrelated matched donor (MUD) so that I can receive their stem cells.

    Is this anything that we can get involved with?

    BTW - It takes a man to admit that he was going the wrong way and change.

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    When my first wife tried to have her leukemia treated with chemo in the 60's without blood treatment support, her blood hemoglobin quickly went way down and the treatments had to be stopped. This left her without any pragmatic treatments available and without hope, so she quickly turned to unconventional remedies.

    Some local Witnesses told her about the Hoxsey Treatment, and she went after this in a big way. She ordered up boxed of weed teas from mail order botanical gardens at big prices and cooked up and drank awful smelling teas.

    She continued to get sicker and the doctors begged her to take treatment but she refused and I foolishly supported her. She added other programs to her treatment like no vinegar, and a purge diet of all carrot juice. I bought out a truck garden's carrot cellar and I'd peel and juice carrots three hours a day for days in a row.

    She continued to get sicker. Then she heard about a Hoxsey doctor in Dallas, Texas by the name of Taylor. We made a trip to Texas to the Taylor clinic where she got a HUGE bill and boxes of home made pills. Now medical doctors at home begged her to take treatment and to consider a bone marrow transplant. Of course she refused.

    I was out of vacation time and out of money, so my parents took her to Texas 3 months later and I managed to pay for the Taylor clinic bill again. Taylor told her not to see the medical doctors. She came home sicker and doctors removed her spleen. Her hemoglobin continued to drop and she went into the hospital and suffocated to death while doctors stood by and watched.

    If I would get sick today, I'd take rational modern treatment as early as possible at the best clinics in the world.

  • Crumpet
    Crumpet

    ((((garybuss)))) - My sincerest sympathies for your pain and condolences for the loss of your wife no matter how recent or long ago. Its good of you to share your story so openly. I hope you don't continue to blame yourself in any way as your wife wanted your support I suspect more than anything else and she received it.

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