Galatians, chapters 1 & 2, completely makes null and void WT fairy tales about GB of the 1st century who was supposed to control all activities, to introduce "a new lights", to appoint apostles, etc.
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Scriptures rarely mentioned
by dothemath ina couple of examples of scriptures hardly ever quoted is 1 tim.
2:12- "i do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence".
or verse 11- "let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness.".
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Cutbacks
by pepperheart inwhat other cut backs do you think will be coming or might be coming these next few years for the borg ?.
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@The Searcher: ... 2-day rallies rather than 3 days
That is mine line of thinking too. They already cutted other conventions (idk how it call on english) from 2 to 1 day. And that will be an perfect opportunity to slap faces of loyal JW once again, this time to those who had to quit or lose jobs because of free friday.
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Are there any doctrines which all Christian religions follow.
by jwfacts ini cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.
are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.
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All christian religions recognize each other as christians by teaching that Jesus is God, and by accepting The Holy Trinity. That's the main filter which JW, mormons, etc. can not pass, so they are not consider as "christians" by others.
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Since everything about the origins of the Watchtower magazine were proved wrong, what legitimacy can its inheritors claim?
by Half banana inthe original aim of ct russell in starting the watchtower magazine in 1879 was to announce to the world his pet idea that jesus had come to rule in the heavens five years earlier back in 1874. for the young entrepreneur this new magazine looked like a commercial runner and it was!.
most of us know how profoundly false the prophecy was but if you don't mind i'll give a brief overview for newbies:.
1874 was the failed adventist prediction year for the return of christ in the heavenly glory, which russell was now saying was the right year after all.
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Half banana: One significant evidence which Adventists had been relying on was the scripture in Daniel based on 607 BCE as the date when Jerusalem was destroyed by Cyrus. Russell said that this date 607 BCE was the pivotal date for predicting the end of god’s enemies on Earth.
Just to comment, CT Russell never spoke about 607 BCE, not even Rutherford, their number was 606 BCE. The first mention of 607 BCE was soon after Rutherford's death, in the 1943. book "The Truth Shall Make You Free", page 239.
Btw, Russell had a few different ways to "prove" 1874. year - measurement of the Great pyramid, six thousand years from creation of Adam by former chronology, by anchor date 539 CE plus 1335 from Daniel's prophecy...
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You wake up one morning and see
by A Believer inthe un has banned religion.
what are you're thoughts?.
also changes to it seem to be on the way.... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/12/trump-vows-israel-vote-161224040133216.html.
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@pale.emperor: A Believer isn't even baptised, he thinks this all unique.
Could be, but I know for sure that some JW (often kids) pretend they are just a sympathizers of JW, so they can peacefully troll around, avoiding tricky questions saying - idk, I'm not even baptized, just started to learn. So I would say, troll by definition.
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No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution
by opusdei1972 inas far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.
well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.
so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.
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No updated Watchtower articles on Evolution - of course not, writing department is a bunch of ignorants. Look at few recent lines in WT:
But does the theory of evolution represent true science at its best? Note the conclusion that Christoph Schönborn, Catholic archbishop of Vienna, presented in The New York Times: “Any system of thought that denies or seeks to explain away the overwhelming evidence for design in biology is ideology, not science.” (WT 15.08.2007 pg 4) - so Catholic archbishops are relevant now?
Christians deal with moral, social, financial, and religious pressures that could cause them to deviate from Jehovah’s righteous ways. Many face family opposition. In some countries, educational institutions promote the theory of evolution ever more aggressively, and atheism is gaining more attention. In the face of such pressures, we cannot merely hunker down and do nothing. We must take action in order to resist and thus protect ourselves. (WT 15.09.2009 pg 13) - by discouraging any education beyond elementary
Also, “the faithful and discreet slave” provides spiritual food to protect us against the teaching of evolution, the enticement of immoral desires, the pursuit of riches and prominence, and numerous other harmful desires and influences. (WT 15.01.2010 pg 10) - so they canceled book "Creation"
Your peers may believe in evolution or in various false religious doctrines because others have told them that this is what they should believe. However, you can rise above such thinking when it comes to your own beliefs. Remember, Jehovah wants you to serve him with your whole mind. (Read Matthew 22:36, 37.) Our heavenly Father wants you to build your faith on evidence. (WT 15.11.2010 pg 13) - evidence like gravity, electricity, wind? btw, evolution is the same category as various false religious doctrines? really?
and so on, I have more quotes, but stupidity of writers makes me sick. You cannot expect that such ignorants will ever be capable to understand simple fact such as evolution and the best explanation of that fact such as theory of evolution.
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why haven't the elders talked to him yet???
by Homer notsimpson inmy brother got himself in hot water, ive been posting alot about this only cuz i care for him so much.the story goes like this, ge and a girl wete sexting very on and off for a year, they haven't sexted in a year due to her finding a bf... they were engaged in less than a year, and it broke off in august ,she tries to commit suicide, and talked to the elders, she told my brother that and that shes gonna tell on him too.. she got df in august ( shes been reproved before) and its now january 2017.. she claims that she did tell, but because the elders didn't know what his hall was they couldn't do anything, is that a possibility?
why haven't they talked to him?
could it bw that she didn't tell on him?
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Tell your brother to sleep peacefully, nothing will happen. No one is interested in a two years old minor offenses, probably without any evidence.
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Caption This Photo from "God's Kingdom Rules!"
by JW_Rogue in.
him: these girls are super weird but maybe i still have a shot at a virgin threesome!.
them: we must remember to bring brother oldenstein next time, otherwise we could arouse unclean thoughts in this young man..
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Him: I hope she won't take back that magazine, or she will see how much i'm "interested"...
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Still Contaminated After All These Years
by new boy inthe contaminantion of years of being a jehovah witness.. it's interesting to see in myself and in many others here how no matter how much we want it or wish it, we will never be able to erase all of the mental contamination.
in one way or another it will always be a part of us.. i've had many friends that have been out for many years say "well i can't do that it just wouldn't be right.
" yes they are still judging themselves and others.
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I think it is matter of habit, not willingness. If you spend 30, 40 or more years as JW (the best and the most part of your life), it is embedded in you, it is a part of you, it is who you are, and, the most important, it is not necessery something wrong (could be, but not necessery). I dumped the rubbish, but I try to keep the good things - I don't want to repeat the same mistake as when someone becomes a JW and destroy everything before that. I'm inactive for 15y, I had a bad period (a few years), but it passed and now I'm free. No bad feelings anymore, clean accounts with everyone. That doesn't mean that I'm breaking all the rules, I still respect most of things, because I want to, not because i'm forced. I'm even free to make fun of that and say "my religion doesn't allow that" if i find that i'm not comfortable with something. Maybe I'm irretrievably contaminated, could be.
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How long does it take to get a response from the branch office?
by Homer notsimpson indoes any one have any experience with writing to the branch office?
i know they're busy, but while reading through the shepherd textbook, it says to write to them quite a few times.
so if a body of elders write to the branch office, whats the usual wait time for a response?
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Depends on matter, probably. When i sent a letter 15y ago (as individual) it took almost 3 months to get an answer (it came via local congregation, cc to my elders to annoy me). Maybe letters sent by body of elders have higher priority.