It's no wonder that so many that grow up in the "TRUTH" get angry later. Thoughts of armegeadon use to scare the heck out of me when I was young. I remember being afraid all the time that I was going to do something so bad but I wouldn't know what it would be. I thought I would find out at armegeadon.
One time after a meeting about Xmas songs filling the air and how to deal with the ho;idays at hand I confessed to my mother that I couldn't get "Jingle Bells" out of my head. "Was Jehovah going to kill me when armegeadon comes?" She picked me up and hugged me and said "Ofcourse not honey he would never do something like that he loves you!"
My dad on the other hand would have punished me. I never confessed anything to him.
Thats probably what made me really start examining later on the whole armegeadon theory. Not saying that I don't believe it will happen, I just chose not to believe it will happen according to what the WTBTS teaches.
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cruel?
by qadreena ini remember going on field service with a pioneer sister then afterwards she asked me to accompany her to look in on one of her studies, i said yes and ended up in the house of a really nice indian lady.
my friend had offered to take this lady's daughter off her hands for a while and take her down the park so off we went - nice summer day, we sat while the little girl played on the swings and slides, we brought a bit of food and went back to the park to sit down and eat, as we were eating, the girl started talking about armageddon.
the conversation was getting along nicely - little girl slowly being succesfully brainwashed...... the poor little 8 year old girl ended up in tears - she was scared of the earthquakes and didnt want to die, she didnt want her mother to die, and even though she believed they would both be together in paradise earth, her dad would die and stay dead, nothing my friend could to cheer her up so i coaxed her into going back on the swings and all was well till it was time for her to go home and the tears started again when she told her mother of her concerns.
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Television Psychic Miss Cleo. . .
by drahcir yarrum inis being sued by the federal government.. she should have seen this coming!.
"fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son.
" dean vernon wormer, faber college
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I saw it on the news last night. Pretty funny. She said she has "millions" ? of satisfied clients.
I think she's charged with fruad regarding the charges that incure on you phone bill. She advertizes first call is free but it isn't.
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GB or Anointed the FDS?
by Thirdson ini was reading via kent's site some of the "to all boe" letters.
i noticed something in particular in the letter of february 27, 2001 about the formation of the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses, a new legal entity.. that letter in part states:we thank you for your cooperation with these adjustments made by the governing body in fulfilling its assignment to care for all the master's belongings.
(matthew 24:45-47. i thought the "faithful slave" was entrusted with the master's belongings not the gb.
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I didn't get that either the first time I heard it. It sounds like the GB wants to lable themselves "The Faithful and Descreat Slave"
Don't know if I spelled descreet correct? but how ever it is spelled Governing Body as we know it IMO doesn't add up the the definition it claims to be.
Anyone else who is annointed has no say in any matters at all unless they are a member of the GB. Never made sense to me.
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Harry Potter vs. The Wizard of Oz
by LDH inperhaps some here would like to expound on why it is ok for witness kids to watch the classic film "wizard of oz" but harry potter is out?.
aren't the two the same thing?
a fantasy about another realm?
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LDH this is your fault.
I remember long ago when an anouncment was made at ouur KH about t.v. shows parents should not allow us kids to whatch anymore due to demon influence. "I Dream of Jeanie" Because she was portraying magic. The big one to keep kids away from was "Bewitched"
There was no way in hell I was gonna come home from school and NOT whatch "I Dream of Jeanie" I still remember other kids acting surprised when they knew I was still allowed to whatch them. I just asked my mom why do we have to stop whatching the best shows all the time? I am so glad I wasn't that deprived as a kid. Most of the kids in my cong. were. That sucks.
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The Earliest Christians
by Adonai438 ini am posting quotes from the writtings of the earliest christians to share whether or not the jw statement of.
the trinity not existing until the council of nicea is accurate or not.
so these quotes are relevant to the trinity.
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Hi angie, Good morning...or afternoon? I have to check.
I have read these before and again. My Uncles, most of them, believe in the trinity as meaning that they are actuall litereally one in the same. I'm pretty familuar with the concept. I don't argue the scriptures you quoted here at all. I think I understand them clearly the same as you feel you understand them clearly but the fact of the matter is any of these scriptures can be interpreted either way. You choose your way and I choose my way. No pun intended.
The same thing could be said about the Three Muskateeres.
"All for one and one for all"
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A sickening example of religious vampirism
by expatbrit inthe link below leads to a webpage for a play entitled it's not too late: a christian drama/musical inspired by the columbine tragedy.. here is the synopsis of the play:.
the story takes place during one day at a high school.. .
mr. brooks is the custodian of the high school.
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"Sorry but it is true. In fact Cassie father was also present.
Personally, if belived it was true you might have to be open to the fact There is a God and Jesus is also a reality. When you die you will soon find out he is a reality and you just did not accept his free gift to you. You will be reminded on how you mocked him in your sacastic way.FActs are facts, Jesus is a reality even if you choose not to believe him."
Pardon?
This stage play nor the tragidy have anything to do with the existance or non existance of Jesus or God."In fact Cassie father was also present." Are you saying we must believe in Jesus because Cassie's father was there and saw a presence?
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Hypocrites.....grrrrrrr
by Tatiana inwell, a couple of nights ago i was kind of ashamed of myself.
let me explain.. i have a new job.
as a model scout.
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I can't imagine any reason why you should apoligize to him. Jumping up and acting offended was stupid on his part. I would only be concerned with how you boss might feel about it if you were like yelling and scaring people or something like that.
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Spirits/Entities - A question for all.
by Nemesis ini would like to ask a question if i might: how do ones here view spirits?
(not the alcoholic kind) i have left the org.
now for at least 5 years, although i did go to the memorial last year, but not where i used to go to the hall; i was not df or da.. .
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Hi Nemesis, I believe there are spirits, good ones and bad ones. I don't know every vision or dream that gives you a strange feeling is caused by a spirit. I believe we have a sixth sense and it is strong in some and not so strong in others and practicly nonexistant in most.
I STRONGLY believe that.
Either way if this is an issue that has you concerned, like in a bad way, IMO there is no need to be all that concerned about it unless your hearing little voices in your head telling you to do really horrible things.
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So, what did you get for Valentines Day?
by WildHorses ini got a box of candy, a single long stem rose, a bracelet, and a .
lilacs.
i don't want someone in my life i can live with.
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the gift that kept on giving? me to. only it's going to keep showing up on my ass for probably months.
2lbs of seesplm
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a little stuff about me, and a request
by flower ini hope this doesnt come out sounding self righteous or anything like that.
forgive me if it sounds like an attempt to...i dont know..gain sympathy or something like that...its not.. i have been here a lot over the past couple of months since i found out the truth about the truth.
i've used this place as sort of a support system.
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Hey Flower, I was just reading through your other thread and lost my conection in the middle of a reply to it. AHHhh!. Anyway I hope you don't take this wrong i'm not trying to seem cold or to blunt but A lot of us have and are where you are. Thats why a majority stay because it becomes obvious that you have a better chance of finding at least a few here who will feel the same as you do or come to the same conclusions. It's a good place to start anyway, at least you are not isolated here. You might get chewed out once in awhile for an opinion or two but I dought you will ever be shunned by the entire board because you may disagree with anothers belief.
With me anyway, the first thing I had to do before I started understanding that I AM worthy, and I haven't been rejected by God was to seperate the ora of the "Building" and the "decissions" made in that "building" from God. I personally couldn't care less about proving Gods existance or non-existance. I believe God exists. I use to pray and pray and get so angry at God for not answering me. I was as disapointed as they come in God and all the BS. I'm glad I for what ever reason, was never able to go that extra inch and kill myself. I came very close many times but something in me always made me stop. I'm not sugesting "Divine intervention" I'm just saying there was a reason. When I stopped looking to God through the eyes of an outcast or a misfit and really understanding that I don't have to belong to a group of people and have their approval before I am worthy to talk to God, Everything completely changed for me. I still have plenty of ups and downs. Still fight depression. But I deal with STUFF so much better and I feel a lot of comfort inside that I never felt before because I was constantly batteling with the opnions of Groups of people in churches and my own opnions. I use to think my own opnions were less relivant because they were not backed up by a crow'd quoteing scriptures to prove there right and i'm wrong.
I learned to read the Bible before I went to school. Scriptures were what I got everynight for bed time stories and before I even went to kindergarden I was learning all the alphabets and reading from the Bible. Not only the NWT but several different Bibles because my mom would show me the difference in the way people spoke in different translations. If only I could spell now i'd have it made.
I don't like quoting scriptures to prove points or back up a belief I have. IMO unless your going to quote the entire chapter and tie it in to what your point is it's no different then trying to prove your case in a court of law. quoting a few scriptures here and there leaves to many openings for objections. I do like reading other posters arguments using quotes from the bible though. You never know what your gonna get. I started rambeling on and on I didn't mean to do that. I really just wanted to say stop feeling disgarded.
I don't remember if you were a lifer or not (jw) but reading some of your posts and reply's i'm assuming you at least have a large chunk of your self tugging at you.
GAWD Blah blah i'll shut up now. If you want to rant e-mail anytime.
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