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  NEWBIES how many of you

  by plmkrzy in

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  have joined in the past month or two?.

  i can't keep up there seems to be so many so i wanted to start a welcome thread for new newbies.. sorry if this was already done recently.. note: the in-built search system is currently being redeveloped so i am not able to check for this topic without looking through tons of pages.. anyway...say hello!.

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  This is exciting to see so many arriving...this is turning into an airport!
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

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  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  S4
  :The whole FDS doctrine of the WTS is a farce, through and through

  I agree and it is truly sad.
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  PLM: Have you ever asked your mom if she has any input into what we read in the publications? Does she get a thought and write to the GB? Does she later see her thoughts expressed in print?
  
  Hi becca, sorry I didn't respond sooner I have been trying to read this thread while getting other things done so it is taking me quite awhile to get through it.
  In answer to your Q, all I can say about that is what I have seen with my own eyes and it made a big impression on me a long time ago. I can tell you that she on many occasions expressed discontent with some teachings and yes she has written to the society only to be admonished for it.
  The district overseer came to our house and personally admonished her on one occasion, his name escapes me now but as soon as I remember it I?ll post it, if it won?t be inappropriate. Anyway?it became so heated at one point that he pointed at me and ordered me to go to my room. She came very close to being disfellowshipped for expressing her opinion. She still does but not out loud and picks carefully whom she confides with.
  I don?t understand her devotion other then it is all she knows and can?t give it up. She truly believes that Satan has interfered with their perception. How can Satan have any influence on or intercept direct communication from God? That would put them on the same level as Eve. Whatever.
  
  The overseer that admonished her so rudely and told her he didn?t believe she was truly anointed and shouldn?t be partaking died some years later. I do remember seeing a slight hidden smirk on her face when she learned about it. Not that she was happy about it, but he was a true ass through and through and had a real holier then thou attitude.
  I don?t know if this is any help, I hope it is of some help.
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  Pope:If we don't have freedom to discuss our heart's and mind's feelings, we don't have anything.
  
  I just wanted to post that again
  
  
  confusa:I wonder alot of times if this is a test.
  We were programmed to always feel that way when ever doubting anything being taught by the wts. Under Satan?s influence, I wish I had a penny for every time I heard that after questioning something.

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  NEWBIES how many of you

  by plmkrzy in

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  have joined in the past month or two?.

  i can't keep up there seems to be so many so i wanted to start a welcome thread for new newbies.. sorry if this was already done recently.. note: the in-built search system is currently being redeveloped so i am not able to check for this topic without looking through tons of pages.. anyway...say hello!.

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  Quixote:I still don't have the courage, or know how, to start my own threads but I'll get there.
  
  Welcome aboard and I look forward to seeing your first thread! Just jump in!
  
  Make that 33!
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  NEWBIES how many of you

  by plmkrzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have joined in the past month or two?.

  i can't keep up there seems to be so many so i wanted to start a welcome thread for new newbies.. sorry if this was already done recently.. note: the in-built search system is currently being redeveloped so i am not able to check for this topic without looking through tons of pages.. anyway...say hello!.

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  Looks like we have some match making going on here
  This is great to actually be able to SEE all the new members together.
  Not only that but it makes it much eaiser to welcome you all.
  

  Welcome to the forum and Thanks for posting !
  

  Genesis
  Warlock
  Grey matters
  dido
  Littledrummerboy
  Onthewayout
  Kitten Wiskers
  exwitless
  jaguarbass
  wonderwoman
  becca1
  joe_black
  Y I Man
  Life is Grand
  iamfreenow
  Gilberto
  Matt_fs
  kerj2leev
  Peaches-n-Cream
  Khrysanthemum
  chuckyy
  chiddy
  Mr. E of the FDS
  Sunspot
  Anakolouthos
  Monkeyshine
  Jakes
  Jerohobobonadad
  Calico Ethel
  jason bourne
  jimbo
  630doom
  If I counted correctly that makes 32!
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  NEWBIES how many of you

  by plmkrzy in

  1. jw
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  have joined in the past month or two?.

  i can't keep up there seems to be so many so i wanted to start a welcome thread for new newbies.. sorry if this was already done recently.. note: the in-built search system is currently being redeveloped so i am not able to check for this topic without looking through tons of pages.. anyway...say hello!.

  plm.

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  630doom Welcome! and thanks.
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  Do the Governing Body members go out in field service?

  by Woofer in

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  don't know why i just thought of that.

  do they go or are the "exempt" from going from door to door?.

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  That is a very good question. Never thought about what they did really besides make up sh##.

  :Yeah, they go out. I'm glad I don't live in their territory

  I wish I was in their territory lol!
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  Matt 22:23-30--no sex for resurrected ones?

  by M.J. in

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  the wts promotes the idea that in the "new system" members of the great crowd, who are not resurrected, will be able to marry and have children.. but what about those that are resurrected?.

  does the wts apply matt 22:23-30 to people resurrected on earth?

  (the passage is obviously applied to people who were pre-new covenant).

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  According to the society last time I checked those resurrected will be like angels. I guess that would mean those that make it past the thousand-year reign and get to live forever.

  edited to add that either means they are resurected without balls or get them cut off in a thousand years.
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  AuldSoul
  :Why would anyone carry a burden other than the one offered by Christ and still think they are pleasing Christ by carrying it?
  
  It will always amaze me for some reason how the most obvious reasoning is always ignored.
  
  
  
  Opr83
  :I'm an ex-elder, stepping away some years ago. Still "active" in the congregation. I do have the mindset that has been described here by many - that Jehovah will correct matters in time, that it will be a "massive" correction, and that the scriptural applications of how corruption infiltrated the Israelites for years is appropriate in this time that we are living.
  
  One of the most difficult times in my entire life was dealing with my mother, almost 2 years ago this month, regarding my issues with the wts. She is anointed and in her late 70?s now. She has on many occasions voiced her opinion about doctrine she felt was?I can?t use the word ?wrong? but how about less then accurate.
  She has always been well aware of my personal views and my reasons for ?falling away? many years ago and even blamed the society for it until 2 years ago when I made it clear that I would never go back to a society that expects me to pledge my allegiance to a bunch of old men in New York.
  It was from that moment on I was demonized in her eyes.
  We always had a close relationship over the years until now and it is only because I will not return to an organization that even she has acknowledged is wrong. Her reasoning is exactly what you said in your post. She believes it is going exactly as planned and now Satan is using me to try to get to her personally. She dedicated her entire life to this org and nothing?NOTHING is more important even if it?s wrong.

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