Posts by contramundum

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Planning Your Exit

by minimus in

jw
friends

did you have a plan to leave the organization?

i did.

it took a couple of years but we did leave and never had a desire to go back!.

Gradually reduced field service to one hour a month for a while , then stopped altogether at the beginning of the new service year. I knew the service overseer was changing to a brother who was new to my congregation and didn't know me. Apart from 6 months of requesting my report, and receiving a polite "no, brother, nothing for you this month" he never asked questions.

Same with meeting attendance. Whittled it down to one or two Sundays a month, then took my opportunity to leave completely when there were some serious issues in the congregation.

Except for one or two attempted visits from elders early on, they have left me alone.

CM

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What is Nature's most perfect food?

by compound complex in

greetings, gourmands of the forum!.

i agree with garfield, but mayo comes in a close second.

slathering my pasta with an inch of best foods real mayonnaise (hellman's, east of the rockies) is close to heaven for me.

contramundum

Chocolate and ice cream

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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall

by pale.emperor in

has anyone else heard this?

a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?

a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.

contramundum

When my (now) ex husband was df'd he sat with me and the children in our usual spot in the hall. Admittedly, that was about 3 rows from the back, but I chose the place because my mind often wandered during the meetings and I liked to sit near the back to watch other people and relieve the boredom

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Jupiter protects the earth... another example of intellectual dishonesty and an argument against design

by cognisonance in

i'm taking a university astronomy course, and i must say it's really fun to read about this field.

anyway, i remember the jws used to use jupiter (and probably still do) as an example for how unique and special our solar system is (and thus designed) -- namely, that jupiter protects the earth from astroids, comets, and meteors.

convincing if one doesn't know any better, especially circa 1994 when jupiter stepped in front of a comet for us... but this isn't the full story!

contramundum

Stan: "Isnt jupiter another word for jehovah"

By Jove, I think he's right!!

😉

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Speaking for God: The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Tahoe in

very well put together!.

https://youtu.be/yyxg8klhtve.

contramundum

The GB imagine women dream: "if-if-if I-I were a man, I'd do this and I'd do that...."

I can already do absolutely anything I wish to do, often better than a lot of men. Why on earth would I want to be a man??

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What is behind your choice of forum user name?

by stuckinarut2 in

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friends

just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

contramundum

Contra mundum = against the world (Latin)

I walked away from everything I had known and believed my whole life.

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What woke you up?

by MrRoboto in

for me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).

but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.

then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .

contramundum

For me, the catalyst was when I started using the Interlinear for my personal bible reading and realised the divine name was nowhere to be found in the original manuscripts.

I read and re read the Gospels and even went so far as to count the number of times WT had erroneously inserted the name Jehovah.

Until that time, I had implicit faith in the Organisation but this deliberate and inexcusable attempt at deception shattered my trust overnight. I slowly examined all the teachings I had questioned over the years and found many had no sound scriptural basis.

When a close friend suggested I research Ray Franz, I initially resisted, still hesitant to look at anything remotely considered apostate, but the more I questioned, the more I became mentally free. I eventually downloaded C of C and what I read shocked me into a decison.

From that moment I resolved to engineer my fade, no longer wanting to be associated with an organisation I now knew to be harmful and corrupt.

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We are becoming champions of grief. We lost twin B.

by Darkknight757 in

last week we had a reassurance ultrasound with our ob.

she was just supposed to check heartbeats on the two little ones and they were going strong!

but because she had extra time and she can be quite anal about her work (which is a good thing) she decided to take some measurements.

contramundum

So sorry

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Another recorded Judicial Meeting...

by NikL in

jw
friends

i've listened to quite a few but for some reason, this one has me really angry.. my heart goes out to the young family dealing with this bull shite.. give a listen.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkpiqigq9c.

contramundum

The elders' definition of apostasy was deviating from the "customary" beliefs of JWs. How often have the GB changed these customary beliefs, thereby apostasising from the faith?

By their own standards they condemn themselves.

This JC was nothing short of a witch hunt, conducted by blinkered men unable to form any reasoned opinion for themselves and with one agenda - to remove "disease" from the congregation. At what point does a JW lose their humanity? Their attitude was utterly shameful.

In contrast, the couple were dignified, honest and remained true to their own personal integrity. I wish them the very best.

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Papal Bulla - Latest Metal Detecting Find

by cofty in

i was out detecting this evening for an hour after work and found this amazing bit of history.. it is a lead seal that originated on a document from pope martin v at some time between 1417 and 1431. these official documents were called papal bulls and were dispatched to all the parishes in the medieval empire.

this example has later been made into a spindle whorl which is why it has a hole through the centre.

lead whorls were used before spinning wheels were invented to make yarn of sheep's wool.. the inscription "spaspe" stands for "sanctus paulus sanctus petrus" and the two busts are of paul and peter.. the reverse has "martinus pp.

contramundum

Amazing find